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Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by Thrymr »

sudowhodoido wrote: post #41
nandhp wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which division gets the calculators? I learned about the HP-12C today, which appears to be the TI-83 of finance: "The HP-12C is HP's longest and best-selling product, in continual production since its introduction in 1981" ... "In 2008, HP modified the design so that new production runs contain an ARM processor which runs an emulated version of previous chips." http://www.hp.com/calculators/ http://store.hp.com/webap…

Horrible calculators despite a major following. I wouldn't buy too much into the HP calculator love. I myself was a follower and had an HP 50G (Nice 205MHz ARM RPL machine, successor of the HP48 series). Was totally unusable without the manual which was in PDF format only so I'd have to sit at the computer anyway. I couldn't print it out because the three volumes were ~2000 pages. Plus the thing was so damn obtuse an…

Agreed regarding the graphing RPL models, but the scientific RPN calculators are pretty solid. The 12C financial calculator is more like those. The scientific equivalent, the 15C, is no longer in production, but the current 35S isn't bad for cranking out calculations. The tactile feedback sure beats hitting a touch screen phone.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by fnordfnordfnord »

nandhp wrote: post #38
walterbell wrote: post #2

Which division gets the memristors?

Which division gets the calculators? I learned about the HP-12C today, which appears to be the TI-83 of finance: "The HP-12C is HP's longest and best-selling product, in continual production since its introduction in 1981" ... "In 2008, HP modified the design so that new production runs contain an ARM processor which runs an emulated version of previous chips." http://www.hp.com/calculators/ http://store.hp.com/webap…

I prefer my HP41 to anything they've made recently. The buttons are too hard to press on the new ones.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by lnon »

Theodores wrote: post #34
pera wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The return of Compaq and DEC? That would be lovely!

Maybe they should have kept some of those brands on, the consumer PC division as Compaq, the 'clever stuff' as DEC with printers and high end hardware in HP.

please no more DECs or COMPAQs. They were both failed businesses that deserve to be dead and buried. Failed businesses run by some pretty poor managers and executives. At least HP is a survivor....remember, they bought COMPAQ, not the other way around.....

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by judk »

gergles wrote: post #7

Relevant parts of the article, since it's paywalled: > Hewlett-Packard Co. HPQ +2.00% plans to break in two, separating its personal-computer and printer businesses from its corporate hardware and services operations, according to people familiar with the matter. > The company plans to announce the move as early as Monday, the people said. It is expected to be effected as a tax-free distribution of shares to the comp…

Sounds like they are discharging Compaq.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by gabriel34 »

dctoedt wrote: post #85
namityadav wrote: post #84

Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links? I know we can find a cached version or search on Google or whatever, but it's still frustrating! I am not asking for a work-around to access WSJ articles. I'm asking HN to consider blocking domains that force users to pay money to access their content.

> Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links? Can we please stop already with the complaints about paywalls? Diligent, thoughtful journalism doesn't happen for free; it's great when HN links can be read for free, but paywalled links shouldn't be second-class citizens.

I disagree, firstly on your call to stop complaints. Anyone should be able to question the status quo. Secondly, I disagree on treating paywalled links the same way "normal" links are treated because this breaks functions of the web. I dislike sites that allow indexing but hide the content from users of indexing sites, like scribd, which contents can be found on a search, but is behind a paywall when you try to access it. This breaks search engines, and this breaks HN. This practice breaks other sites and uses them as advertising spots.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by judk »

lnon wrote: post #94
Theodores wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they should have kept some of those brands on, the consumer PC division as Compaq, the 'clever stuff' as DEC with printers and high end hardware in HP.

please no more DECs or COMPAQs. They were both failed businesses that deserve to be dead and buried. Failed businesses run by some pretty poor managers and executives. At least HP is a survivor....remember, they bought COMPAQ, not the other way around.....

HP bought Compaq presumably because they couldn't just beat Compaq in the market.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by hackuser »

Pxtl wrote: post #76
otterley wrote: post #4

I really hope they name the spun-off computer division "Compaq."

I actually liked when they had Compaq as their low-end brand and HP as their high-end. They should bring that back. It works for car companies. Right now HP sabotages their own brand name with their cheap low-end crap, even though they make some good devices. I want to ser a win/android compete with apple properly - a well-defined and short list of mid-to-high skus and no cheap stuff to apologize for.

> I actually liked when they had Compaq as their low-end brand and HP as their high-end.

Maybe that only applied to consumer hardware? The used the Compaq name for their business hardware, including servers, for a long time IIRC.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by KobaQ »

dctoedt wrote: post #85
namityadav wrote: post #84

Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links? I know we can find a cached version or search on Google or whatever, but it's still frustrating! I am not asking for a work-around to access WSJ articles. I'm asking HN to consider blocking domains that force users to pay money to access their content.

> Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links? Can we please stop already with the complaints about paywalls? Diligent, thoughtful journalism doesn't happen for free; it's great when HN links can be read for free, but paywalled links shouldn't be second-class citizens.

> Diligent, thoughtful journalism doesn't happen for free

A free to use website (with ads) doesn't mean the journalists aren't payed. Most of the time, they are.

Generally, there's nothing wrong with payed websites, but it makes it a bit frustrating for people at a discussion board for web articles. Especially when there are users who really can't afford them (from countries with less income than North America or Europe) and the same information is available on free to use websites.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by WoodenChair »

gabriel34 wrote: post #96
dctoedt wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links? Can we please stop already with the complaints about paywalls? Diligent, thoughtful journalism doesn't happen for free; it's great when HN links can be read for free, but paywalled links shouldn't be second-class citizens.

I disagree, firstly on your call to stop complaints. Anyone should be able to question the status quo. Secondly, I disagree on treating paywalled links the same way "normal" links are treated because this breaks functions of the web. I dislike sites that allow indexing but hide the content from users of indexing sites, like scribd, which contents can be found on a search, but is behind a paywall when you try to acces…

> This breaks search engines, and this breaks HN.

Paywalls might arguably break Hacker News (although that's debatable) but they certainly do not break search engines. The job of a search engine is to index all content. It makes no guarantee that you will not have to pay for the content it indexes. It only claims that the content it finds is relevant to your search.

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