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Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by sjg007 »

shmerl wrote: post #21
shepard wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, you are bringing very interesting points: - vertical integration (and tighter control over quality / schedules) for technology companies, and - size/scale as an advantage in Marketplace. We have seeing both of these in play, not just with Samsung: Apple is designing their own CPUs, and you can argue they leverage their size to help iTunes and Apple Pay businesses. Still, there are counterexamples: NVIDIA (and…

It can have its downsides. For example Nvidia didn't manage to push 16nm chips into their latest Maxwell cards because plants that they use for manufacturing were already booked ahead. Intel on the other hand use their own plants and can decide things more flexibly.

If anything at scale you should own the whole chain.

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Post by Encosia »

[deleted] wrote: post #77
Tomte wrote: post #35

There was a time when HP believed it was a big supertanker, impossible to steer. So they split up. Agilent was born. Shortly after that a new CEO believed, HP needed to be bigger. So they bought Compaq. Now they are too big again. "All of this has happened before. And all of it will happen again."

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In case you're curious, you're being downvoted because Tomte was not quoting Armageddon.

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Post by namityadav »

Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links? I know we can find a cached version or search on Google or whatever, but it's still frustrating!

I am not asking for a work-around to access WSJ articles. I'm asking HN to consider blocking domains that force users to pay money to access their content.

Re: Hewlett-Packard Plans to Break in Two

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Post by dctoedt »

namityadav wrote: post #84

Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links? I know we can find a cached version or search on Google or whatever, but it's still frustrating! I am not asking for a work-around to access WSJ articles. I'm asking HN to consider blocking domains that force users to pay money to access their content.

> Can we please have a rule against posting paywall links?

Can we please stop already with the complaints about paywalls? Diligent, thoughtful journalism doesn't happen for free; it's great when HN links can be read for free, but paywalled links shouldn't be second-class citizens.

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Post by reportingsjr »

joezydeco wrote: post #16
tonyplee wrote: post #12

I worked for HP in early 90. At that time, I remember old HP (mainly instrumentation groups now Algilent) had a rule of if a product line is > $100mil. They will spin it off to a separate P/L division. It seems like a good sharding algorithm for scaling out a corporation. They stopped doing it after PC/Printer div/group. A cynical view was it was good for high level corp managers to hide the cost of fleet of corporat…

Looks like it's back. Agilent is spinning off the measurement group into a company called Keysight. Announcement was 2 weeks ago. http://www.agilent.com/about/companyinfo/company-separation....

The announcement was actually a year ago. The officially split off the company on September 1st I believe. Really annoyed a lot of EEs that they are splitting it off yet again.

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Post by sliverstorm »

porsupah wrote: post #75
crapshoot101 wrote: post #19

The most amazing thing for me of the piece is the realization that HP still had $110B+ in revenue last year - its a useful reminder to us (put myself squarely in this category) of some of the behemoths in the valley that get short shift at times in the "Silicon Valley" PR ecosystem. There's apparently some interesting research still going in HP labs - one smart friend moved out here to work on Memristors with them (o…

Might you know what HP's current stance on memristor research is, by any chance? It's one of those technologies we've all seen simmering away hopefully, and HP's been (or, perhaps, was?) one of the few large SV corporations with an interest in longer-term R&D.

Well, they were boasting about it just this summer

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/hp-lab...

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Post by porsupah »

sliverstorm wrote: post #87
porsupah wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might you know what HP's current stance on memristor research is, by any chance? It's one of those technologies we've all seen simmering away hopefully, and HP's been (or, perhaps, was?) one of the few large SV corporations with an interest in longer-term R&D.

Well, they were boasting about it just this summer http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/hp-lab...

Thanks for that. With the vulnerability of R&D, I'd feared the group may have been sidelined. I noticed they're claiming to be preparing to ship memristor DIMMs in 2016 - hopefully that's a genuinely commercial roadmap, rather than RSN.
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