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Whats Wrong with Markdown

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Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#12
Markdown has basically kinda won the Plain Text Format War but man sometimes I really wish it had used the "enclose text between slashes" format for /italics/. Enclosing text between asterisks is for bold. Enclosing text between two asterisks before and after is for... what? Who writes that out in plain text areas? Nobody. Nobody except Gruber.

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#13
The root problem here is that every HTML WYSIWIG editor (from MS Word to TinyMCE) uses their own special blend of tags when creating HTML. There's only a handful of tags that are generated by Markdown, the problem is that editors often don't use standard tags (e.g. ) or they try to do too much and enable every feature that exists in HTML. This causes an absolute mess where one editor can't really parse another's output. (Sometimes the web based ones have trouble dealing with their own markup - turning HTML into a write-only language akin to regex).

Markdown is just a horrible solution to this problem. Rather than 'Common Markdown' there really needs to be 'Common Markup' which strictly limits the tags WYSIWYG editors use. This would enable true interop and solve the real issue for most people who could - like the author pointed out - see the formatting they were using.

Think of it as the equivalent of ASM.js for markup - only the core tags (the ones Markdown uses) would be used, and only in a specific way. That would speed up parsing, processing and display and none of us would have to remember if adding a link uses () or [] first again (I always get it backwards).

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#14
"You mad bro?" comes to mind.

Successful rants provide solutions at the end. Otherwise, its just that, a rant that has no real meaning at all other than allowing you to vent - like this post.

Feel better (I do).

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#15
This article is just condescending and gets nothing accomplished. Its like me writing an article titled "Whats Wrong with Cars", where I list my complaints about cars: "People who don't drive cars won't know how to use them", "People use cars for purposes other than the creator intended them for", "Cars are Non-Standardized (Stick Shift, Automatic, etc)".

It's just annoying that he/she isn't providing any solutions and is just being a Negative Nelly. Why not write something like: "Whats Wrong with Cars and How We Can Fix Them". All I got from the article was "Cars suck, all the people who use them are just 'cool aid' drinkers".

Also there are numerous typos, such as: "...it woudl look like this:"

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#16
hi, Adam here, I wrote the article. Really interesting comments. Just for the record, I am in favor of the command line tool, and I have also posted numerous articles on better alternatives :)

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#17

This article is just condescending and gets nothing accomplished. Its like me writing an article titled "Whats Wrong with Cars", where I list my complaints about cars: "People who don't drive cars won't know how to use them", "People use cars for purposes other than the creator intended them for", "Cars are Non-Standardized (Stick Shift, Automatic, etc)". It's just annoying that he/she isn't providing any solutions a…

Thanks for the tip. I added a few things this afternoon and didn't spell check :)

As for negative nelly, the post right after the markdown one is about an alternative (for a very specific context). But no matter, you're probably right, it might have been better to add a few alternatives to the end of the article.

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#18
post #8

First of all, I reject the premise of this article: > Markdown (.MD) is a text format that lazy people use to write HTML. This is just blatantly false. Markdown was never intended to replace HTML. Second, the author points how how "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog " is not very legible. I completely agree. However, this is contrived example that you are unlikely to encounter in practice. Just as it would b…

hi

Argh. My reply got burned by the server downtime. Just to say I dont have anything against the shell and plain text- I produced (facilitated) the production of numerous books around this topic including http://www.flossmanuals.net/command-line/

Glad you like reading markdown. I don't think that is a majority position though and I see markdown being promoted to a larger community at times that really wouldn't find it useful or nice to use.

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#19
This post was pathetic from the very first sentence to the very last. It's one long stream of lack of understanding starting with the insulting "lazy people" opening.

Re: Whats Wrong with Markdown

#20
I thought the only really legitimate gripe he had was the non-standardized interpretation of the edge cases, and once we get a number of decent CommonMark implmentations / refinements to the spec, we should be able to handle those fairly soon.

I use Markdown to take text notes; it's quick to write, and especially with my text editor's syntax highlighting it looks decent too.

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