"Sorry, education reformers, it’s still memorization and repetition we need." This is very true. For example, doing the advanced engineering calculus can often boil down to manipulating polynomial, which are still arithmetic. A person with "understanding" but no fluency in basic arithmetic is setup to fail.
How I Rewired My Brain to Become Fluent in Math
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#52Assuming the author's convictions are true, how would one apply a 'rote learning' technique to programming? I believe in repetition, but, personally haven't been able to find a useful way of implementing it to become a top-notch programmer. Why? Well, take calculus. Buy a book, pound problems. Do 1,000 derivatives. Next chapter. 1,000 integrals. Is there a similar "exercise" for programming?
Learning how to solve problems is a different process, but this gave me good understanding of basic code structures.
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#53I can recognize some of my experience in what she's saying -- as I've been told several times in math/stats "you don't understand this, you just get used to it." That's a bit of troubling statement at first, but I think it's sortof a shorthand way of saying that much of the understanding available comes through the process of repeated manipulation and observing outcomes. I've also noticed that a decade or two after g…
Pretty sure Kalid is a commenter here, but I have to give him a huge thanks and plug for BetterExplained.com--really helped me grasp some of these higher-level concepts in a more intuitive manner, even if I didn't walk away with a full understanding of the intricacies.
His Cheatsheet is a great starting point if you are interested in a particular topic: http://betterexplained.com/cheatsheet/
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#54I think the reason she has succeeded is quite simple: she is an avid learner. She has put in huge amount of effort into learning. It's not about some magic methods she discovered.
Carrying the formula f=ma in head all day long, thinking about it, practicing its various forms in different situations, that is not rote learning or simple repetition (as the author claims), it is working one's a$$ off to understand something.
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#55On the other hand, there's no need for rote memory. Just practice by solving interesting problems. There are plenty of opportunities to use math every day. There is also a very effective way of learning: work on slightly harder than usual problems. When learning calculus, I started to work on Demidovich's Problems in Mathematical Analysis, and I thought it was hard. Then, I stumbled upon solution book for college math competitions. Man, that was a huge help. After working through the problems, a lot of concepts became clear to me, and Demidovich's problems became reasonably easy too. It turned out the hard problems were hard because they required me to make non-obvious connections, which nudged me to really understand, from different angles, the concepts that I learned in the classroom.
By the way, when did arithmetic become so hard? It seems kids nowadays are being spoiled by their parents...
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#56(1) Pick a topic at about the right level.
(2) Get one main, maybe plus a few extra, good books on the topic.
(3) In a good chair in a quiet room, in the good book, read the material on the topic and try to understand it well enough to make sense. Then work the exercises.
If something doesn't make sense, look in one or more of the other books.
(4) At times, review the last several topics and try to get more understanding, e.g., what else is true, what is not true, what makes the true statements true and the false statements false.
Maybe take a class that covers the main book and check work and understanding with the professor.
Rinse, repeat with other topics.
Done.
Worked for me.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But I am in total agreement with the writer that modern education does a grave disservice to young learners by discarding rote learning and repetition. I've come to appreciate the importance of rote learning over the past couple of years... but despite its simplicity, I would call it a very advanced technique. You don't need rote learning to get to understand something. You don't even need rote learning to become v…
I disagree. We are expecting students to learn more than ever before. Math is a great example. Their ability to handle even a simple concept like multiplication requires fluency in addition. The ability to learn algebra requires fluency in arithmetic. The ability to learn calculus requires fluency in algebra. Tons of kids pass one grade but emerge unprepared for the next. The author hits the nail on the head: they un…
However, for ~98% of the population it's by far the most useful parts of math. Then again you can also say the same thing about just Arithmetic, basic Algebra, Logic and Statistics. So, it's really a question of what your goals are.
There is actually a lot of Math that's been dropped from K-12 education. EX: Understanding logarithms is really fundamental for using a slide rule or understanding floating point arithmetic, but it's not really that useful for most people.
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#58Assuming the author's convictions are true, how would one apply a 'rote learning' technique to programming? I believe in repetition, but, personally haven't been able to find a useful way of implementing it to become a top-notch programmer. Why? Well, take calculus. Buy a book, pound problems. Do 1,000 derivatives. Next chapter. 1,000 integrals. Is there a similar "exercise" for programming?
Re: How I Rewired My Brain to Become Fluent in Math
#59I can recognize some of my experience in what she's saying -- as I've been told several times in math/stats "you don't understand this, you just get used to it." That's a bit of troubling statement at first, but I think it's sortof a shorthand way of saying that much of the understanding available comes through the process of repeated manipulation and observing outcomes. I've also noticed that a decade or two after g…
I got tired of not having an intuitive understanding of particular mathematical concepts. The rote memorization was very limiting for be because I wasn't as easily able to grasp when it might apply to certain concepts. Pretty sure Kalid is a commenter here, but I have to give him a huge thanks and plug for BetterExplained.com--really helped me grasp some of these higher-level concepts in a more intuitive manner, even…
As a more general reply to the article, I was fortunate enough to work with Prof. Oakley on her Coursera Class (https://class.coursera.org/learning-001/lecture, I'm the last guest interview at the bottom) and I really, really like her learning strategy.
Her article didn't use the exact phrase "deliberate practice" but I think that captures the essence of what she means by repetition. You need enough conceptual understanding to make sure you're following the path correctly, but then you want to practice -- at the edge of your comfort zone, with feedback, etc. -- to make sure it's really clicking.
It's really easy to fool yourself into thinking "I've got this" when it's untested. In my own case, I realized I didn't "get" imaginary numbers and exponents when I couldn't estimate a^b [a raised to the bth power] in my head with equal fluency for all numbers a and b. I had never really tested every type of number in every type of exponent position (base and power).
For example,
3^4 => this should be a positive real number greater than 1
3^(-4) => this should be a positive real number, very close to 0.
3^i => Hrm.
i^i => Uh oh.
I knew that unless I had fluency with all of these scenarios, I didn't truly "get" exponents or complex numbers. Sure, maybe I had a baby version where I could use them in well-defined ways, but I had a subconscious fear of i appearing as a base and/or exponent. I had to challenge myself and practice thinking through the various permutations before I recognized the gaps. Then I had to deepen my conceptual understanding, and practice again.
(For the previous questions, 3^i should be a complex number on the unit circle, maybe around 50 or 60 degrees, but less than 90, and i^i should be a real number, greater than 0 but less than 1. I can estimate these without calculating them, see http://betterexplained.com/articles/intuitive-understanding-... for more details.)
Again, thanks for the mention!
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#60"... Even though I understand all the little bits, I can’t understand them fast enough to get the big picture. And the same thing happens in programming. If the basic concepts aren’t so easy that you don’t even have to think about them, you’re not going to get the big concepts."
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/GuerrillaInterviewing...: