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An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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Re: An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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A big problem with spinning disks is that storage grows inversely with the area of the dots, while reading and writing speed grow inversely with the diameter of the dots. If you store 100 times as much data, all else being equal, time to write a full disk will be ten times as large. Ways around that are increasing rotation speed (been there, done that. There is little to gain here without making the disk a lot strong…

Bandwidth increasing proportional with the square root of the storage growth is a pretty great trend. If anything that sounds like a plus.

Re: An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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Thank you for that.

Everything I find related to that seems to have been shut down, are you getting better luck?

Some libgen sites may be blocking IP addresses from certain countries. If so, try another mirror, or use a proxy.

Re: An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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The real breakthrough would be a way for regular CD/DVD drives to at least be able to read the new format. But I doubt that this will be practical for consumers. Most consumers dont really need a CD drive anymore, companies like Apple arent even including them in laptops any longer.

I think CDs would make a comeback if you're talking about being able to hold an entire series of movies all in 4K and in 3D and not break a sweat. Digital downloads is all the rage right now, but people will still want to archive their downloads.

> people will still want to archive their downloads

I don't know how true this is. Even the tech-savvy folks I know rely primarily on Netflix/Spotify/etc, and in the rare instances they buy something, they trust iTunes/Amazon/etc to hold it for them. (I continue to think that is nuts.)

Re: An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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I'm skeptical that this won't be extremely fragile, physically. With details that small, the slightest scratch could erase large swaths of data.

Multiple copies on the disk, or multiple disks could take care of that? Surely, some kind of error correction is possible to take that into account.

http://dvdisaster.net/en/index.html

Re: An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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Seems a little past it's prime. Why would you want this when you have the internet?

Bandwidth. What if I could hand you the totality of Netflix, iTunes, etc.? Not wait for it to download, but transfer large chunks of the Internet in seconds? and no longer have to hope that, say, Netflix won't lose vast sections of their library for contractual reasons (as it has done of late)? Backups: permanent archiving of everything you have all on one disc. It makes vast swaths of data yours, in your hand, under…

"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway." —Tanenbaum, Andrew S.

Re: An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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Everything I find related to that seems to have been shut down, are you getting better luck?

Some libgen sites may be blocking IP addresses from certain countries. If so, try another mirror, or use a proxy.

Shadow libraries statistics from re:publica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfEKrz49zGM

Re: An Australian researcher has worked out how to store 1000TB on a CD

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I would love a potential use case as a backup that is redundant dozens or hundreds of times over. I'm not sure the exact mechanism by which DVDs start to lose data over 10-20 years, but this tech might be a way to mitigate that risk (as well as scratches and other physical damage).

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> With the $18,000 fellowship, Gan will collaborate with industry and researchers around the world to work on new breakthroughs for data storage devices, and also see how his existing research can be used on a larger scale to rapidly improve the capacity of optics-based information technologies. $18K seems like a drop in the bucket for powering this kind of research. Dr. Gan needs someone to introduce him to Kickstar…

Given Australia salary scales, this may be a typo, 180,000 would sound normal.

Nope, it's $18k, but it's not a wage. It is low (Australia doesn't have the money that US universities are awash in), but it's for things like international travel to conferences and the like.

http://www.swinburne.edu.au/media-centre/news/2014/08/victor...

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> more films than you could possibly watch in your lifetime I was curious if this statement was true... So assuming, 4.4 GB her HD film & 2 hrs long each, you can fit roughly 232 films per TB or 232,000 films total (for 1000 TB), that's 464,000 hours of HD content or 53 years (!) back to back. So, yes, that statement is true. Now the next logical question: Has the human race produced 464,000 hours of video content? L…

> Has the human race produced 464,000 hours of video content? Far more than that... YouTube alone claims "100 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute": https://www.youtube.com/yt/press/statistics.html ...which comes out to 144kh/day. In other words, one of these discs would be enough to store ~3 days worth of contributions to YouTube. So a box of these discs, let's say 1000 of them - which isn't all that…

The majority of that is junk anyways. But I suppose some people obsessed with archiving everything wouldn't filter anything. If I were to grab "everything" from YouTube I would at least limit it to subscriptions and only subscribe to channels that don't upload bogus junk.
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