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India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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While I'm a big supporter of international co-operation, remember that the US has been striking a number of technical deals with India, as a part of a long-term political investment in bringing up a large democratic power to balance China. I think this has as much to do with that goal as it does with sharing technical information.

Sure, just like probably the biggest reason the US put a man on the Moon is because of the Cold War. Still pretty cool.

Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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While I'm a big supporter of international co-operation, remember that the US has been striking a number of technical deals with India, as a part of a long-term political investment in bringing up a large democratic power to balance China. I think this has as much to do with that goal as it does with sharing technical information.

I have a dumb question. What's a large democratic power, and how does it differ from China? I'm not implying China is in any way democratic, but rather inviting someone to further explain what the goal of the US is. Is it likely that this is simply empire expansion rather than an altruistic goal of balancing China? Mainly I'm just wondering what the concerns might be if a large democratic power (and I'd still like to…

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Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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post #7

While I'm a big supporter of international co-operation, remember that the US has been striking a number of technical deals with India, as a part of a long-term political investment in bringing up a large democratic power to balance China. I think this has as much to do with that goal as it does with sharing technical information.

that and our current "partner", Russia, isn't so reliable anymore. This can be simple acknowledgment of who else will be a viable when it comes to space exploration and exploitation.

Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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IF this works, this will surely accelerate the process of sending humans to other planets (may be not Mars)

Why do you say that? The techincal goals of this mission are fairly modest, and do not seem to bush the boundaries of launch technologry or involve technology that would be useful for human survival in space.

The agreement and mission are both good things, but I do not see how they will have much of an effect on human spaceflight.

Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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This is exciting but makes me nervous. India is re-imagining "space travel on a budget", but if all of a sudden they have to play by NASA's rules and standards, their ability to innovate at low cost might be hampered.

Hopefully whatever form of cooperation they come up with lets India continue to operate mostly independently.

Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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post #7

While I'm a big supporter of international co-operation, remember that the US has been striking a number of technical deals with India, as a part of a long-term political investment in bringing up a large democratic power to balance China. I think this has as much to do with that goal as it does with sharing technical information.

I have a dumb question. What's a large democratic power, and how does it differ from China? I'm not implying China is in any way democratic, but rather inviting someone to further explain what the goal of the US is. Is it likely that this is simply empire expansion rather than an altruistic goal of balancing China? Mainly I'm just wondering what the concerns might be if a large democratic power (and I'd still like to…

Substitute "large democratic power to balance China" with "large power to balance China", and I think it makes more sense.

U.S. foreign policy seems to be to hinder the expansion of other large powers in an attempt to keep them small enough to not be an existential threat at some point in the far future.

You send money and aid to whom ever is in a position to hinder those who are growing too powerful, whether the group you are sending that money and aid to is democratic or not.

This is not about right and wrong. It's about long term strategy, aimed at preserving the status quo for as long as possible. If you hinder your competitors, that keeps them from becoming even more of a threat to you.

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While I'm a big supporter of international co-operation, remember that the US has been striking a number of technical deals with India, as a part of a long-term political investment in bringing up a large democratic power to balance China. I think this has as much to do with that goal as it does with sharing technical information.

I have a dumb question. What's a large democratic power, and how does it differ from China? I'm not implying China is in any way democratic, but rather inviting someone to further explain what the goal of the US is. Is it likely that this is simply empire expansion rather than an altruistic goal of balancing China? Mainly I'm just wondering what the concerns might be if a large democratic power (and I'd still like to…

I am aware of the textbook definition of "democracy," "republic," etc, but it seems like those names are more of a flag for people to fight under than a definition for a state of being in the modern era

You seem to be assigning moral equivalence to democracy and Chinese communism/totalitarianism.

If you aren't just trolling, then differences include the right to travel, the right to free speech, the right to read the internet uncensored, and the right to vote.

Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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I wrote this on the WSJ comments several hours ago but it's worth repeating here. I believe that it would be valuable if the US invested more basic research money in India. We might be able to greatly increase our research output in the basic sciences. Start small then increase the budget as research in India matures.

Re: India, U.S. Agree to Joint Exploration of Mars

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Official press release: http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/september/us-india-to-collabo... And, NISAR Earth observation mission looks very exciting as well: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32478.msg12...

NISAR is a very interesting mission from a technological point of view. It will have two radars, at least one of which gives 10m resolution, and they will be obtaining global coverage. The data rate is huge, larger than any Earth remote sensing mission to date (many TB/day).

Earth scientists are already having problems dealing with contemporary data volumes, and NISAR really raises the stakes.

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