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Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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Chrome WebRTC developer here. Two quick thoughts: 1. A better headline would be "Ericsson open-sources another WebRTC implementation". WebRTC is a set of standards, and they are implementing them, which is one of the purposes of having standards: to have multiple implementations. 2. One of the purposes listed by Ericsson for having another implementation is to "transcend the pure browser environment and that native a…

A few months ago, I tried building the Google WebRTC implementation, but got an error about missing Java libraries. I'm not sure why Java is needed to build a C++ API, even then, requiring Oracle Java 6 and not working with OpenJDK.

Ericsson's implementation, on the other hand, has a much simpler build process. Just run the shell script and it works.

Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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Chrome WebRTC developer here. Two quick thoughts: 1. A better headline would be "Ericsson open-sources another WebRTC implementation". WebRTC is a set of standards, and they are implementing them, which is one of the purposes of having standards: to have multiple implementations. 2. One of the purposes listed by Ericsson for having another implementation is to "transcend the pure browser environment and that native a…

Our (Ericsson Research) view:

1. Agreed. That headline was not written by us. 2. The reason for having another impl. is not the lack of native app support in Google's implementation. Rather, you should read it as one of the motivations for developing OpenWebRTC in the first place.

Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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post #11

I've spent quite a lot of time looking at how OTT providers have impacted traditional SIP stack technologies. Ericsson are one of the few major tech I know companies that have understood that the future is heavily reflected in software definition. I strongly believe companies like Ericsson will surely make some game changing technologies over the next 2-5 years, their bread and butter has traditionally been reliant o…

There is a lot of hubaloo over WebRTC in the telecom space, because there's nothing else happening there. Traditional V/VoIP has been stagnant since people started doing video chat using large TVs a decade ago, calling it telepresence.

WebRTC is another feature to check off, and the opportunity to develop and sell another SIP gateway product. WebRTC is in no way a replacement for SIP, much less an existential threat to the telecom industry; it is simply another transport layer.

Personally, while some OTT innovation is welcome, I hope the status quo isn't completely shattered. Going all-out on WebRTC implies a siloed architecture, which is antithetical to the purpose of an interoperable standard like SIP.

Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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Does WebRTC strike anyone as too many things in one package?

It's P2P, video, audio, codecs, and a whole slew of other things all bundled up together into the same "standard."

The P2P part is really really useful, but I could see some vendors wanting to break that off for various reasons. You can do that of course but... well... it's sort of like if "WiFi" referred to 802.11 + a bunch of video codecs + a routing standard + transport protocols + ...

Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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Chrome WebRTC developer here. Two quick thoughts: 1. A better headline would be "Ericsson open-sources another WebRTC implementation". WebRTC is a set of standards, and they are implementing them, which is one of the purposes of having standards: to have multiple implementations. 2. One of the purposes listed by Ericsson for having another implementation is to "transcend the pure browser environment and that native a…

I am curious. How did you come to work on the WebRTC stack for Chrome?

Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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post #25

Does WebRTC strike anyone as too many things in one package? It's P2P, video, audio, codecs, and a whole slew of other things all bundled up together into the same "standard." The P2P part is really really useful, but I could see some vendors wanting to break that off for various reasons. You can do that of course but... well... it's sort of like if "WiFi" referred to 802.11 + a bunch of video codecs + a routing stan…

> Does WebRTC strike anyone as too many things in one package?

It does too many things. I want to use WebRTC data channels for a multiplayer game, but the current implementation libraries tie-in all the media components. It would be nice if there was a WebRTC implementation that provided data channels without having the media functionality.

Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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For those interested in Google's implementation: https://code.google.com/p/webrtc/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%... or browse the code: svn checkout http://webrtc.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ webrtc-read-only Also Ericsson's code is on github (I couldn't find a direct link from the parent article): https://github.com/EricssonResearch/openwebrtc/

code.google.com - ugh why can't google admit defeat and start using github?

I don't think they should, what they should do is copy the UI, switch to git as their version control, offer lower prices and better search. Embrace and extinguish.

Re: Ericsson open-sources OpenWebRTC, rival to Google’s WebRTC implementation

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is generally considered a positive thing when proposed standards have multiple independent implementations.

Yes, I think you're agreeing with me?

It's a second implementation of your opinion.
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