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Re: Reddit

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We are in the process of raising first round of funds for http://whoaverse.com and things are starting to get interesting. We have major plans for both enterprise and private use of the platform and when it comes to giving back to the community - we plan to use the same model big players like YouTube and Twitch have for rewarding content creation (actual money). This will be a fun ride which currently feels like Davi…

This is literally a reddit clone, what's your edge?

Bing is a clone of Google and Yahoo is a clone of... DuckDuckGo? Call it what you want, here are just a few distinctions:

- built-in night mode (reddit does not have this)

- responsive design which works great on mobile out of the box (reddit does not have this)

- limited voting (new users need to gain a certain amount of points before they are able to vote without restrictions, reddit does not have this)

- limited number of owned subs (reddit does not have this, one person can and does moderate hundreds of subs)

- youtube-like score bar which graphically shows percentage of upvotes/downvotes (reddit does not have this)

- user profiles which show statistics about user activity, for example, submission distribution and highest-lowest rated submissions (reddit does not have this)

- better privacy, users can delete all data stored about them if they decide to leave and close their account (reddit does not have this, all data is kept and public even after user deletes his account)

- youtube-like revenue sharing model (in development) where community is rewarded with real money (reddit does not have this)

- based in Switzerland, no censorship policy as long as content is legal (reddit is like North Korea when it comes to this, censoring thefappening but leaving sexwithdogs)

- no blatant ad submissions posing as regular posts policy (examples: a photo of a starbucks cup with a cute kitten inside which frequently reaches reddit frontpage or a video titled "look what I filmed with my GoPro")

- ...constant dialog with community and very open to new ideas and improvement

I hope this answers your question.

Re: Reddit

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post #324

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"hopefully this infusion of cash will let them hire devs …" They shouldn't need additional developers for these features (unless all the existing ones left?), seems to me that these things should be doable fairly quickly.

"It seems to me that all this programming would be easy" is a common thought, and almost always wrong. I am included in this category.

These days I'm no longer shocked at the number of times I hear "this should be easy" from someone who has absolutely no experience in programming whatsoever. At this point I just smile, nod my head, and attempt to drag the discussion back to reality.

It makes me the "negative" one in meetings.

Makes me wonder how often this phenomenon happens in other industries.

I can say from experience it does happen in the design world. Back in my design days I can say I heard variations of the thought from time-to-time but not as often as I do now being a developer.

Re: Reddit

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Can anyone recommend a good subreddit? Something where people are thoughtful and respectful. Perhaps something like HN without the tech...?

Re: Reddit

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>"I'm a male and why is this on my reddit page" and people that just barge in without reading rules to post things against our rules I think its asking way too much of someone who wants to join a casual site known for cat pics and meme jokes to read through the couple dozen default sub rules. There's no practical educational solution here. The volume of new users and the labor of understanding all these rules is huge…

>Worse, once a sub is made a default, its quantity goes up but its quality goes down. This seems to be almost universally true for any online community. As a userbase widens, content quality and even social dynamics become diluted to some extent towards a general population baseline. As a mod of /r/changemyview (153k subscribers), we have discussed opting out of becoming a default sub if we were approached by the red…

>>Worse, once a sub is made a default, its quantity goes up but its quality goes down.

This seems to be almost universally true for any online community. As a userbase widens, content quality and even social dynamics become diluted to some extent towards a general population baseline.

Yes and no. I started spending time over on NeoGAF which has 141K members. Not nearly the size of some larger subs, but pretty good. The quality in content isn't massively scholarly, but it's far less juvenile than Reddit can be. This is largely due to the heavy moderation the forum uses. Which is likely the major flaw in Reddit. It can be a place for "good content" while also trying to be a more open form of discussion.

Re: Reddit

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I was a founding moderator of /r/gamernews, which was founded with a seriously different mindset than that of r/gamingnews or r/gaming. When we started, we had a lot of people coming from the other communities trying to force in memes, rumors, blogspam, and other things that were against our founding principles. It took a few months before the submitted content matched the community we were looking for. Trolls realiz…

Voting and karma is Reddit's biggest flaw because as you said "Voting in an open system only works to reenforce the viewpoints of the majority of voters." Subreddits can be ruined by any small influx of SRSers or whatever sub is annoyed for the day. The only subs that are actually good are the heavily moderated subs.

Re: Reddit

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They'll be very person specific but sure I like these (some are less than perfect). /r/futuresynth (no one comments but the stuff is great, nearly perfect ;)) /r/ada /r/embedded /r/raspberry_pi /r/bicycling /r/programming /r/linux /r/nottheonion There are some subs I try to like /r/minimalism (which on any given day is either "I have nothing...but these apple products" or "Two arms..one too many?") and /r/zen which i…

I still subscribe but I definitely wish /r/bicycling weren't so clogged with image posts (new bike day, first century, weight loss, etc...).

Every time this comes people complain and whine that it would ruin the sub. I'm on the side that posting images should be banned. In subs I've seen this implemented it's helped content a lot.

Re: Reddit

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There are hundreds of thousands of voters participating on /r/all content. Your vote isn't going to matter whatsoever except in the critical time between when something is first submitted and when it falls off of the new submissions page (and rising page, and controversial page). A ten minute conversation with the average voter will repel you from the idea that eveyone should want to listen to what 51% of most people…

Your vote isn't supposed to matter, not any more than anyone else's vote. That's the entire premise of democracy, in fact, a fact that's completely and utterly ruined by the arbitrary nature of moderation. The idea that you'd ever go to reddit.com or reddit.com/r/foo and see nothing but gems is a pipe dream. You're asking other people to do your work for you. You are the one who's supposed to contribute your up/downv…

>You're asking other people to do your work for you.

Yes, I am.

>You are the one who's supposed to contribute your up/downvote.

But that's the problem. My upvote / downvote doesn't matter. If I'm in r/funny it doesn't matter how often I downvote unfunny things - the sub will still be inundated with garbage posts - subjectivity of humor aside. I don't mean "That joke didn't make me laugh", I mean there is nothing within the content of the post that indicates it's even an attempt at humor. The only thing left for me to do in the face of such a situation is to leave and go somewhere else. The only way for my vote (on posts themselves) to mean anything is moderator action.

I'm not (and I don't think anyone else is) arguing that every sub should have strict rules and moderation. But strict moderation is a necessary tool for many of the subreddits that I enjoy to exist. A lack of moderation would turn r/askHistorians into a swamp of ignorant hearsay, answers based solely on what one dude read on Wikipedia, and general misinformation in no time at all. The only vote that I have that matters on reddit is the vote for which subreddits I subscribe to, not the posts within those subreddits.

Re: Reddit

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post #403

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This is literally a reddit clone, what's your edge?

Bing is a clone of Google and Yahoo is a clone of... DuckDuckGo? Call it what you want, here are just a few distinctions: - built-in night mode (reddit does not have this) - responsive design which works great on mobile out of the box (reddit does not have this) - limited voting (new users need to gain a certain amount of points before they are able to vote without restrictions, reddit does not have this) - limited n…

That sounds good. But what's your plan to convince me (and more) to change my daily website? I go to these sites for content, and despite reddit not having the nice features, it does have the content.

Also I think you should go away a bit from the look-like-reddit because most people will probably go there, see yet another reddit clone and dismiss it.

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