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Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:11 AM UTC

na85 wrote: post #166

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

The reddit admins are taking completely the wrong approach if their goal is to increase the quality of discussion on the site. Every time a subreddit gets added to the defaults, it goes one of two ways: The subreddit goes to total shit (r/funny, r/wtf), or the moderators are forced to combat an ever-rising tide of shit in order to maintain quality (r/science). Neither of those scenarios seem tenable in the long term.…

I like /r/funny =/

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:16 AM UTC

hellodevnull wrote: post #287

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

>often racist/sexist discussion I'm confused. Reddit is one of the most anti-racist/sexist communities on the internet. That's the hivemind, so you'd expect anything that's racist or exist to quickly be deleted or pushed to the bottom of the thread where nobody can see it (on the large subreddits anyway).

>Reddit is one of the most anti-racist/sexist communities on the internet.

We most subscribe to very different subs. I've never been a part of a community that had so much tolerance for racism. Some subs have rules against but most do not, and users take advantage of that. On most forums and other communities I've been a part of, you get instabanned for any whif of racism in your posts. On reddit you can pretty much say what you want (in most subs).

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:22 AM UTC

giulianob wrote: post #75

As a long time Reddit user, I've been really disappointed lately with Reddits "battle" against content creators and the little recourse you have if you are marked as a spammer or shadow banned. See the recent /r/indiegaming debacle for example, where a subreddit where mainly indie devs would post about their games now allows very little self promotion ( http://redd.it/2fdwyv ). Some of these rules are Reddit wide so…

Sounds like you are a banned spammer?

Re: Reddit

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Post by patcon » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:25 AM UTC

B-Con wrote: post #56

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

> One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and new user exp…

I keep fantasizing about some sort of inception-like system where you could go "deeper" below each subreddit when you chose to, finding a smaller subset of people who'd also gone deeper out of dissatisfaction with convo quality. Maybe it would be one-way gate where you couldn't go back to participate on upper levela. Maybe you comments would still show up above, but the votes in the deeper level would be tallied relative to its users... I keep posting this when quality comes up in discussion, but no one ever bites :)

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:25 AM UTC

balor123 wrote: post #223

Quora looks like a nice iteration on Reddit. Reddit should just do a big rewrite to make it look and feel more like Quora. The data model should be able to remain mostly the same, with just some major interface changes, minor feature changes, and major backend updates. It could probably even be deployed in parallel to the existing implementation. Some items that'd be nice are email updates, weekly digests, topic sugg…

I'm a heavy user of both and never made a connection between them. Them are very different I think.

However one thing Quora does way, way, way, way better is your feed (home page on reddit). It's really smart and accurate and unearths lots of great content. Not all of it fresh. Some of it even really old.

reddit should copy that.

Yishan Wong is the biggest power user Quora has ever had, so he surely knows and understands this.

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:28 AM UTC

Angostura wrote: post #289

I'm intrigued by the final paragraph: > Yishan Wong has a big vision for what reddit can be. I’m excited to watch it play out. Has anyone seen him set out his big vision? I'm not sure that I have.

He hasn't, beyond his 'reddit is city-state' thing.

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:31 AM UTC

Does anybody know of a sub where stuff like this link would make the front page? And techmeme type stuff (fundraising etc)? I can't find anything like that. It certainly isn't /r/technology or /r/startups

Re: Reddit

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Post by hayksaakian » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:34 AM UTC

buckbova wrote: post #170

kyrra wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ya, I thought about after I wrote it. Though I believe you can only downvote comments not stories on HN.

You flag posts and they'll drop in the rankings, sometimes right off the front page.

i think the distinction in UX is important

downvote sounds like the opposite of upvote

flagging sounds like a reporting mechanism

they actually do the same thing, but they give totally different impressions to new users.

Re: Reddit

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Post by ryanmerket » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:41 AM UTC

anonbanker wrote: post #119

alexis wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally false. Check my comment history: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20r4o8/talking_bitc...

Went through four pages, and didn't see a single zero-point comment. That's pretty rare for reddit.

Comments start at 1 point.

Re: Reddit

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Post by apozem » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:45 AM UTC

mreiland wrote: post #318

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"I'm a male and why is this on my reddit page" and people that just barge in without reading rules to post things against our rules I think its asking way too much of someone who wants to join a casual site known for cat pics and meme jokes to read through the couple dozen default sub rules. There's no practical educational solution here. The volume of new users and the labor of understanding all these rules is huge…

right, reddit is "doin' it rong!", that's why their projected growth is so high. Part of the reason they've been successful is because the default subreddits draw people in. This isn't about some high and mighty "what is 'proper'", this is about what people find interesting to talk about. The default subreddits are not there to scratch the itch of those like you with their nose in up in the air about "quality". As mu…

Memes, inside jokes and other fluff content are good for attracting new users and light entertainment. That makes sense.

What we're saying is that such low-effort content gets old. Users get bored after a while and want something thoughtful and novel. If reddit does not come up with a way to provide such content (without the constant slide toward the lowest common denominator), it may have trouble holding users.