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Re: Reddit

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Post by Alex3917 » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:00 PM UTC

alexis wrote: post #74

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

> There are Cleveland Browns fans who've visited reddit every day for years and don't realize there's a r/clevelandbrowns community that they'd love

Can you use retargeting to drive people on the frontpage to appropriate subreddits?

Re: Reddit

#132

Post by bentcorner » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:02 PM UTC

alexis wrote: post #74

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

The vast majority (if not all) of subreddits I've discovered over the years has been because of getting linked to them by other users.

True moments of wonder are often discovered when linked to a subreddit that is a completely different world. /r/ooer, for example. (I'll add a nsfw warning for that page just to be cautious - I literally have no idea what's going on there).

I would never discover subreddits like that one without the help of other users.

Re: Reddit

#133

Post by jiggy2011 » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:02 PM UTC

kyro wrote: post #105

alexis wrote: post #74

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We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

I think my main issue is with the front page and default subs. They are so unrepresentative of the great quality that can be found, and yet that's the face reddit chooses to put on. Why have default subs at all? Why not rotate through a constantly changing set of high-quality subs throughout the front page? Or why emphasize individual stories on the front page and instead present snippets of entire subreddits, almost…

The high quality subs are high quality because they have limited appeal. It's the same way HN keeps a reasonable level of quality, if there way an influx of people here who weren't interested in technology/programming and just wanted to talk about video games or politics then the quality would go down.

Re: Reddit

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Post by companyhen » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:02 PM UTC

onedev wrote: post #97

companyhen wrote: post #80

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As the founder of r/hiphopheads, thanks fam. :)

Wow seriously? Dude I freakin' love r/hhh.

Seriously. When I joined reddit there wasn't an active hip-hop board (which was the only major interest I had that reddit didn't have an active community for).

So I thought I'd take it into my own hands. Started posting content, inviting users who I thought would be interested, and almost 5 years later, turned into what it is today.

Re: Reddit

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Post by diminoten » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:02 PM UTC

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

I am of the opposing opinion. I think Reddit has an entirely separate purpose from a place like HN, and I think it hurts the bottom line of Reddit and makes the Internet a less interesting place if more moderation were to take place on Reddit.

I just don't believe it's in Reddit's best financial interest to decrease the level of impact an individual user can have on its site.

I also don't believe moderators, as they're currently designed on Reddit, are capable of discerning signal from noise. The whole driving premise of Reddit is the upvote, and that's an incredibly powerful concept.

Legitimacy is established through adherence to core values, and Reddit's core values have always centered around what's popular, not what's "good" or "right", as judged by a few randomly selected people.

Reddit is the upvote, not the moderator, isn't it?

Edit: Sorry, this is a little rambling, but I'm torn between spending 20 minutes fleshing out this comment, and being a productive employee (aren't we all?).

The overall gist of what I'm saying is the idea of a more "curated" Reddit, a la HN, would be bad for the website, the Internet, and the company primarily because of the lack of any kind of vetting of those who would curate the various reddits. I think there's a place on the Internet for a very profitable website that doesn't have any particular "quality control" beyond what the users like and don't like (janitorial tasks, e.g. spam filtering and illegal content pruning aside).

Re: Reddit

#136

Post by silencio » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:02 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #127

silencio wrote: post #117

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You do not want to see the cesspool that is moderated comments on 2xc. Spam and hateful comments fall pretty fast anyway, but that doesn't mean that it should stay there. What would you prefer - a youtube page with all comments and some hidden due to a low score, or a page with all the shitty comments removed altogether? Someone is going to see that shit anyway and it's going to be awful as it involves everything fro…

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Feel free to start your own community with a hands off approach. :)

We have 1.1 million subscribers in an active and default subreddit. Related and private subreddits are growing too to meet the random niche demands of some of our users, and that's a great thing. Our users have options if they don't like our moderation style.

Re: Reddit

#137

Post by pond_lilly » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:03 PM UTC

reddit has been downhill for some time now. Just check /r/worldnews. It also shadowbans users and it is a big reason folks are leaving en masse.

Re: Reddit

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Post by DigitalJack » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:05 PM UTC

alexis wrote: post #74

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

I'd be interested in a questionaire ala Netflix for suggestions on subreddits that I might find interesting.

Re: Reddit

#139

Post by jianshen » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:05 PM UTC

alexis wrote: post #88

lziz wrote: post #84

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Have you thought about making the "trending" feature more prominent/content-rich? I've found a bunch of new subs I've come to love through it.

I got excited when I saw that feature. It's a shame it's riding the meme of another platform, but people instantly "get it," at least. The core problem is people don't even understand how the site works (subscribe to communities you like). That's something the team is still working on improving in a non-annoying way. Mobile is going to be a big part of it, I think.

I most often discover new subreddits by clicking "Other discussions" on links that I particularly like. That's how I discovered /r/artisanvideos.

I'd love to see those related subreddit threads (possibly sorted by activity) be surfaced more visually when I visit a comments page to find our more about it. Just an anecdote but I feel like you guys have a lot of data to play with.

Re: Reddit

#140

Post by freehunter » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 7:06 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #107

silencio wrote: post #93

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I'm a default (twoxchromosomes) mod. I would love to see better moderation tools. Most of the shitty content I've had to deal with are from newer/multiple accounts, as well as the older accounts that are sick of the trolls. Our AutoModerator shadowban list and our ban list is so ridiculously long I can barely scroll it. It'd be amazing if we didn't have to rely on a bunch of other tools (toolbox, RES, AutoModerator)…

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I was a founding moderator of /r/gamernews, which was founded with a seriously different mindset than that of r/gamingnews or r/gaming. When we started, we had a lot of people coming from the other communities trying to force in memes, rumors, blogspam, and other things that were against our founding principles. It took a few months before the submitted content matched the community we were looking for. Trolls realized they weren't welcome, and people who wanted news without rumors or other cruft felt comfortable there. If we didn't have heavy handed (and often controversial) moderation policies for the first few months, we never would have hit 100 subscribers, let alone 90,000.

Relying on a community to police itself is great for an open community (like /r/gaming), but if you want any kind of formal structure you need some moderation. Especially on such a sensitive subreddit as /r/twoxchromosomes where the potential for abuse, spam, and general hatred is so high. Although with that community, I seriously have to wonder why reddit would want it to be a default, or why the moderators agreed. Terrible, terrible decision to take a community of respect and trust and open the floodgates to the greater internet full of assholes and trolls. Oh well.

Voting in an open system only works to reenforce the viewpoints of the majority of voters, not the viewpoints of the specific community. That's why I can't vote in the elections of another country.