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Re: Reddit

#11

Post by mbillie1 »

dkokelley wrote: post #3

Does anyone know of any precedent for granting equity to a community site's users? I'm curious to see what sort of dynamic this creates in the site.

> I'm curious to see what sort of dynamic this creates in the site.

As a daily reddit user for 4+ years, I'd wager that it'll just be an exaggerated amount of the same. With any internet community it seems, given enough time, you get saturated by users 'gaming' it for points/karma/post count/etc. So now the same small number of nothing-else-to-do reddit users trawling the archives for repostable karma material have one more incentive to keep up the high-karma-low-content submissions: money. Sorry for the cynicism.

Re: Reddit

#12

Post by lazyant »

I suggest giving some shares to the people that have been with Reddit 8+ years and with over 8k combined link+comment karma :)

Re: Reddit

#13

Post by cryoshon »

Mod/admin censorship, government manipulation (out of Eglin AFB most likely), and corporate advertising/shilling are pretty blatantly huge in reddit right now, with many users openly looking for alternative websites. The admin team has shown again and again that they're willing to tolerate anything until there's bad PR.

One of the founders (Alexis) has a PR firm, Antique Jetpack, which is on record [1] as cooperating with Stratfor of wikileaks fame. I can't quite see how the two are unconnected.

A couple of years ago, one of the admins there tacitly admitted that he was under a National Security letter complete with gag order to give up user information.

A few months ago, reddit changed its voting system in order to completely obfuscate user detection of large scale vote manipulation. The community was unanimously against this change, and has been overruled.

I don't see a great future for reddit, honestly. I'll continue to use it until whoaverse or another alternative is populated enough.

[1]: https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=277352

Re: Reddit

#14

Post by [deleted] »

kyrra wrote: post #5

The one downside (as I see it) of Reddit that Facebook, G+, and HN all don't have is the ability to downvote. Downvoting makes it so larger subreddits will only have material on their front page that the majority of that group agrees with. This leads to certain subreddits (like /r/politics/) being heavily dominated by one side of the subject area. But I still use reddit daily myself. Getting off some of the default s…

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Re: Reddit

#15

Post by nilkn »

windsurfer wrote: post #10
kyrra wrote: post #5

The one downside (as I see it) of Reddit that Facebook, G+, and HN all don't have is the ability to downvote. Downvoting makes it so larger subreddits will only have material on their front page that the majority of that group agrees with. This leads to certain subreddits (like /r/politics/) being heavily dominated by one side of the subject area. But I still use reddit daily myself. Getting off some of the default s…

HN has downvoting. I was able to downvote you, and your comment went lower on the page and turned grey. HN also has excellent moderation.

I believe he's referring to stories, not comments, as he explicitly refers to material on the front page.

I don't know if there's a karma threshold after which one can downvote stories. If there is, I haven't hit it, at 2129 karma as of this writing.

Re: Reddit

#16

Post by giarc »

kyrra wrote: post #5

The one downside (as I see it) of Reddit that Facebook, G+, and HN all don't have is the ability to downvote. Downvoting makes it so larger subreddits will only have material on their front page that the majority of that group agrees with. This leads to certain subreddits (like /r/politics/) being heavily dominated by one side of the subject area. But I still use reddit daily myself. Getting off some of the default s…

With HN, once a user reaches a certain level of "upvotes" they unlock the ability to downvote.

Re: Reddit

#17

Post by throwawayornot »

cryoshon wrote: post #13

Mod/admin censorship, government manipulation (out of Eglin AFB most likely), and corporate advertising/shilling are pretty blatantly huge in reddit right now, with many users openly looking for alternative websites. The admin team has shown again and again that they're willing to tolerate anything until there's bad PR. One of the founders (Alexis) has a PR firm, Antique Jetpack, which is on record [1] as cooperating…

HN Gold to you, good sir!

Re: Reddit

#18

Post by kylekampy »

minimaxir wrote: post #7

I like Reddit. I recently obtained a data dump of every single submission and comment so I could perform interesting data analysis and may just determine what make a post on Reddit viral. The problem I have with Reddit is that I'm still unsure if it's a positive externality. There's a lot of good aspects of Reddit (discovery, community), but there's so much bad about Reddit that it's impossible to overlook it (abusiv…

I couldn't agree with you more. The bad parts of reddit are what push me away. Of course there are some smaller subreddits that actually value quality content, but if they somehow grow to 'default' subreddit status then things seem to go downhill quickly.

Hopefully you publish some of your findings down the road. I'm interested to hear more.

Re: Reddit

#19

Post by foobarqux »

dkokelley wrote: post #3

Does anyone know of any precedent for granting equity to a community site's users? I'm curious to see what sort of dynamic this creates in the site.

Co-operatives have existed for a long time.

Re: Reddit

#20

Post by icpmacdo »

cryoshon wrote: post #13

Mod/admin censorship, government manipulation (out of Eglin AFB most likely), and corporate advertising/shilling are pretty blatantly huge in reddit right now, with many users openly looking for alternative websites. The admin team has shown again and again that they're willing to tolerate anything until there's bad PR. One of the founders (Alexis) has a PR firm, Antique Jetpack, which is on record [1] as cooperating…

The thing is there need to be something like Reddit that is not controlled at all by a company or corporation but completely by the users.
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