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Declassified photos from Tinian Island as the B-29 “Enola Gay” was being loaded

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For those that have not read it, the Richard Rhodes book is one of the finest pieces of science/engineering writing I have read: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Making-Atomic-Bomb-Richard-Rhodes/dp...

I'm in the midst of it. Quite long but the background stuff is one of the best overviews of 20th century physics you can read anywhere.

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Implosion Sphere for Fat Man nearly assembled and about to be placed inside it's casing. "Its casing". Why do people have such a problem with it's and its?

Because it's backwards of how apostrophes normally work. In all other cases, it is the right place to use an apostrophe: * ...about to be placed in Fat Man's casing. * ...about to be placed in the bomb's casing * ... about to be placed in its casing. One of those is not like the others.

It helps to understand how it actually works. The s in its does not point towards possession, it is simply part of the word "its".

My, His, Hers, Ours, Yours, Theirs, Its.

Not Me's, He's, She's, Us's, Your's, Their's, It's.

English is an easy language. Most languages use a lot more words than all that to convey all that. English speakers don't have to deal with the singular second person, with a separate objective noun for you/he/she, with neutrals (heck, barely at all with the feminine), and so on.

So make an effort. Get its right :)

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Implosion Sphere for Fat Man nearly assembled and about to be placed inside it's casing. "Its casing". Why do people have such a problem with it's and its?

Because it's the opposite of how you deal with possessives in other situations. ...inside Fat Man's casing... I assume you knew that though and were just being an ass.

I think OP was just being an ass, but whether the behavior is opposite really depends on your frame of reference. The lack of apostrophe is consistent with how you deal with possessive pronouns: his, her/hers, our/ours, etc. No possessive pronouns have apostrophes, with one exception. And the apostrophe is consistent with how other contractions work.

If you remember (and care) that its and it's are two separate words, then you should be able think your way through it. It's could legitimately be possessive or a contraction, but its can only be the possessive.

Anyway, I agree with you that it's tricky enough that we shouldn't be assholes about it.

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Wondering why the staff are not wearing any protective clothing while handling nuclear devices ?

I find it weird that most of them aren't wearing shirts at all.

My grandfather was a mechanic in the Enola Gay's bomber group. He mentioned that his personal bar for heat and humidity are from some of the islands they setup airfields on in the Pacific. Considering he spent a fair amount of his career following that war in LA maintaining the B52 air wings I tend to wonder why more of them aren't wearing shirts.

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I found out a few weeks ago they made a bunch of those bombs, minus the nuclear elements, for training. They even dropped some on Japanese targets and found they were fairly effective just from the explosive content. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkin_bomb

They cost between 13k and 26k a piece in 2014 USD. That is truly amazing. EDIT: Even more amazing when you consider that they weighed about 10k pounds.

It's amazing/depressing how cheap bombs are when they don't have to be smart.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the secrecy surrounding the bombs, it is highly likely that not one of them had any idea what it was they were assembling/loading into the plane. All they likely knew was that it was "some kind of new, secret, bomb". It is questionable whether the "high ranking officials" referenced in the plane alignment photo caption even had much knowledge of just what this "new, secret, bomb" really was.

At least one of them [1] knew exactly what it was, I would guess that the others were working for him and had a pretty good idea too. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sterling_Parsons

I think most of them had an idea about atomic bombs back then, and what they were doing could end the war. Robert Heinlien was investigated by the FBI in the late 30's due to a description of atomic bombs in a story he'd written. So the idea was out there so to speack.

What they were ignorant of, I'm pretty sure, was the actual magnitude of the destruction caused by the devices. My father was about 10 yrs old at the time, he was deeply effected by news reels at the time. The tragedy was horrific.

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