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Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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It's really hard to distinguish the Chromebook on the photo from a MacBook Pro. The Chromebook designers should really come up with something of their own instead of copying Jony Ive's design for Apple if they want the laptop to have a better image than poor mans MacBook.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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It's not awesome at all. It's the death of personal computing. What to use Photoshop? Pay a perpetual monthly fee forever, with no control over which version of the software you are using. Adobe jacked up the price this year for the new version despite a lack of new features? Tough, nothing you can do about it. It's either pay up or lose access. The new version is buggy? Tough luck. Want to modify any of the software…

Why do you feel entitled to use proprietary software with no restrictions? Yes, Adobe and Microsoft are going to charge you rent. So what? Just use free (as in freedom) software instead. Adobe and Microsoft were never your friends, and if you feel bad about this recent development I don't know why you were using their software in the first place. They were always looking for a way to do this to you, all that's change…

Speaking out against something you don't like or think will have a bad effect on something you hold dear IS NOTHING LIKE being entitled.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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It's really hard to distinguish the Chromebook on the photo from a MacBook Pro. The Chromebook designers should really come up with something of their own instead of copying Jony Ive's design for Apple if they want the laptop to have a better image than poor mans MacBook.

If I had a nickel for every apple fanboi claiming google steals from apple I'd be rich. Please, get over it, let's not act like apple doesn't copy.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Claiming that "terminals are the future once again" is hardly controversial. How much (time/money/mind share) are invested in non-networked, desktop-style apps? Some, yes, but "everyone" seem to be (continuing) the push for networked apps (MS Office and Exchange/Sharepoint, Google (everything), Adobe/Macromedia with Creative Cloud, Apple iCloud ...). Mozilla is doing a cloud-push to, but have thankfully so far had a…

Networked apps running on the desktop != Terminals

True enough. But if everyone of those apps are just a poorly constructed X Server equivalent (nothing going on locally if the connection drops) ... the difference seems a little semantic?

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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I am little bit concerned about the way technology trends these days. It feels like sooner or later, big companies will have all the hardware and software hosted on their side and people will only get access to play it according to companies rules. This is actually a concern to my freedom as well. I want to own my hardware and software power. I want to run everything offline if i want to. I don't want to click "I agr…

On the flip side, you can consider that traditional proprietary software installs usually have full access to read and modify your system, often in ways you don't expect or wouldn't consent to. Running in a virtualized environment in a browser significantly reduces access to your system. So if you run a free software local install with proprietary programs running in a jailed browser environment, you are probably mor…

>On the flip side, you can consider that traditional proprietary software installs usually have full access to read and modify your system, often in ways you don't expect or wouldn't consent to.

Perhaps for non-technical users. For technical users this is a solved problem for a few decades now. You can restrict read/write access for any software in any which way you want.

>Running in a virtualized environment in a browser significantly reduces access to your system.

Why would I want to kill my software performance by running it on an inferior browser platform when the kernel is perfectly capable of compartmentalizing software.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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I'm pretty excited to see how utterly wretched the performance will be!

Yep. Absolutely wretched: http://shield.nvidia.com/play-pc-games/

Local home-wifi has latencies on the order of a few milliseconds. And not to mention the bandwidth is also typically MUCH higher than the bandwidth from Adobe's (or anyone elses) server farms to your PC. Please try and understand the problem we're talking about before posting irrelevant links.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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This is big news. Chrome OS now has the potential to destroy Windows. It will soon run a large range of Android apps, and a good virtualization solution would mean that business applications could be written for Linux and run on any platform that runs Chrome. If I was Microsoft I'd be very worried right now.

I'm not Microsoft, but as a user I'm worried. I certainly will not be supporting these kinds of anti-user lock-in SaaS platforms. I'm hoping users will ignore them, and they will fail.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Daily GIMP user here, pretty much the only thing you can't do is print CMYK.

The problem with GIMP isn't its featureset, but its interface. It's so foreign to anyone who works with graphics that whatever UI metaphors it uses fail to resonate with people, so they just end up confused. What GIMP probably needs is an overhaul that copies what Photoshop does. People understand Photoshop, and it's the industry standard.

It's so foreign to anyone

It's foreign to photoshop users, GIMP is just different. I really don't like those open source software that want to copy some proprietary one. They tend to copy the mistakes of the other software too. Maybe GIMP doesn't have all the features that photoshop has but copying photoshop is not the way to go.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Daily GIMP user here, pretty much the only thing you can't do is print CMYK.

The problem with GIMP isn't its featureset, but its interface. It's so foreign to anyone who works with graphics that whatever UI metaphors it uses fail to resonate with people, so they just end up confused. What GIMP probably needs is an overhaul that copies what Photoshop does. People understand Photoshop, and it's the industry standard.

I've never understood the problem with the GIMP UI, what is it about it that is so foreign?

From what I can tell the UI's look fairly similar too: https://gtchan1.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/5-gui-photoshop.... http://www.gimpchat.com/files/196_2012-05-12_214936.jpg There's various widgets that contain e.g. tools, layers, history, fonts, tool options; and of course each tool might have its own options.

(Also, the team itself have said in various ways that they'll never have as their goal to be a "Photoshop clone", as I understand it that's an unreachable and thus depressing goal. It's a lot more motivating to simply try to make something that works well than trying to cater to every whim of those who don't want to pay for Photoshop.)

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Daily GIMP user here, pretty much the only thing you can't do is print CMYK.

The problem with GIMP isn't its featureset, but its interface. It's so foreign to anyone who works with graphics that whatever UI metaphors it uses fail to resonate with people, so they just end up confused. What GIMP probably needs is an overhaul that copies what Photoshop does. People understand Photoshop, and it's the industry standard.

Agreed, GIMP is a horrendous piece of software. I know it is extremely powerful (for example combined with G'MIC) but the fact you can't do the most simple transformations (rescale, move, strech and rotate) on the freehand tool speaks a lot about its usability.

Inkscape on the other hand really is a viable alternative to Illustrator.

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