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Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

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Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

#11
Another cheery day on HN, post a framework debut and people just bitch about some PC nonsense related to the name and other semantics. On a positive note it seems like a good idea and direction to go in, thanks for your work on this, as a Sails user I will be watching developments

Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

#12

Why the hell would you choose LESS when it's so much worse than both SASS and Stylus.

It's really a matter of opinion.I personally hate the Stylus/Jade combo.

LESS looks like CSS,designers/integrators know it or it's easy for them to learn.Same thing for template engines that abstract html too much.There's no need to do that.

As for SASS,node-sass isnt in sync with the latest SASS version and you cant run it in a browser.LESS is good enough for most use cases.

Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

#13
I do give some props for productivity and sharing a solution with the community (rather than just bitching about other peoples' solutions).

This looks pretty well-put-together to get a project started quickly, though my personal preferences might have been sass/foundation. To me those are small nitpicks in the scheme of things, and you're never going to be able to please everyone with your choices for defaults :D

The checkmark tables get under my skin a bit since they're mostly a specific set of dependencies (which of course your framework 'aces') rather than a comparison of actual features (in fairness, asset pipeline/DI I'd consider features).

Anyway, this is neat and looks worth some exposure. Keep on hacking!

Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

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post #8

FYI, as the Wikipedia article linked on the site states, in some place (e.g. Canada), the term "Eskimo" is considered politically incorrect (along the same lines as "Indian" as a term for native Canadians or Americans).

FYI, a considerable amount of "Native Americans" prefer to be called "Indians".

Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

#16
post #7

In Canada "Eskimo" is often considered an offensive term. The term is widely taken to mean "raw meat eaters" which is understandably offensive, though it may actually have come from "snowshoe-netter" which doesn't seem so bad. I'm sure the project maintainer isn't aware of the controversy, but he or she should consider changing the name. A fledgling library needs all the help it can get with getting hung up on someth…

The author is not applying the term towards a group of people.

The author is applying the term as a name of his project.

I'm sure whatever name he picks, someone somewhere will take the opportunity to either play the offended-victim card, or the white-knight-that-will-save-that-victim card.

Personally, I'm not offended and I hope he keeps the name.

Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

#17
post #7

In Canada "Eskimo" is often considered an offensive term. The term is widely taken to mean "raw meat eaters" which is understandably offensive, though it may actually have come from "snowshoe-netter" which doesn't seem so bad. I'm sure the project maintainer isn't aware of the controversy, but he or she should consider changing the name. A fledgling library needs all the help it can get with getting hung up on someth…

I can confirm this. In Denmark, which has a large population from Greenland, it's an slightly offensive term too.

Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

#18
I've iterated twice on these kinds of projects. First was Drywall and the latest is Frame. Drywall includes a front-end and Frame is just an API. Finding a happy medium of features is tricky. Some choices limit your audience quite a bit.

Drywall [https://github.com/jedireza/drywall] Drywall is limited to people who're ok using Grunt instead of Gulp or Backbone instead of _______, etc...

Frame [https://github.com/jedireza/frame] I created Frame to appeal to a larger audience. And because all the front-end opinions were removed it plays nicer since you "bring your own front-end". Interestingly enough, now I'd like to provide Postgres as well as Mongo db connections.

In general these projects are interesting and I think serve best as examples of apps beyond the absolute basics. Once you make an app yours, it'll probably go in it's own direction quickly.

Re: Eskimo – Node Boilerplate Framework for Rapid MVPs

#19
post #15
post #8

FYI, as the Wikipedia article linked on the site states, in some place (e.g. Canada), the term "Eskimo" is considered politically incorrect (along the same lines as "Indian" as a term for native Canadians or Americans).

FYI, a considerable amount of "Native Americans" prefer to be called "Indians".

Thanks, I did not know that!
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