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Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by datasage »

flixic wrote: post #14

Well this is interesting. Their FAQ[0] contains some more information, but still does not explain everything. They say "however, instead of being installed on your local machine, it is running in a virtualized environment so can be accessed from any Chrome browser or Chromebook. Because this version of Photoshop is running in a virtualized environment, you open, save, export and recover files from/to your Google Driv…

> Overall, this doesn't sound good at all. If they are streaming screen "video", color correction and pixel-level precision in design is going to be tough. Photoshop seems like one of the most difficult programs to work via VNC.

This would be a huge issue for the professional market. But it appears that they are targeting education with this first (or maybe just that market). Color precision is likely not the highest of priorities.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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whizzkid wrote: post #19

I am little bit concerned about the way technology trends these days. It feels like sooner or later, big companies will have all the hardware and software hosted on their side and people will only get access to play it according to companies rules. This is actually a concern to my freedom as well. I want to own my hardware and software power. I want to run everything offline if i want to. I don't want to click "I agr…

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Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by teamonkey »

flixic wrote: post #14

Well this is interesting. Their FAQ[0] contains some more information, but still does not explain everything. They say "however, instead of being installed on your local machine, it is running in a virtualized environment so can be accessed from any Chrome browser or Chromebook. Because this version of Photoshop is running in a virtualized environment, you open, save, export and recover files from/to your Google Driv…

  Photoshop seems like one of the most difficult programs to work via VNC.
I think it's actually the opposite. Usually only a small amount of the screen is changing, so response is fast. For full-screen or complicated effects they can provide more CPU horsepower than your average laptop, so the operation may actually complete faster, even if screen redraw takes more time.

FWIW I've used Photoshop over Remote Desktop in the past and with a good connection it feels perfectly usable. There's a little input lag which is only noticeable with sweeping brush effects, not UI interactions, and like I say large area screen redraw (e.g. scrolling) suffers. There's no visible compression or artifacts and I don't see why color correction would be an issue.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by richdougherty »

flixic wrote: post #14

Well this is interesting. Their FAQ[0] contains some more information, but still does not explain everything. They say "however, instead of being installed on your local machine, it is running in a virtualized environment so can be accessed from any Chrome browser or Chromebook. Because this version of Photoshop is running in a virtualized environment, you open, save, export and recover files from/to your Google Driv…

I suspect that it's built using Native Client (https://developer.chrome.com/native-client), not using VNC. "Streaming" in this context probably means that the code and files are dynamically served by the server, rather than referring to streaming video.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by thefreeman »

justinsb wrote: post #12
quite wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, it is the latter you prefer? -- VNC/remote desktop

No, I want the virtual machine to run on my Chromebook. And it sounds like that is what they're doing!

No, they specifically say that if your internet connection is terminated you will need to reconnect and restore your session. It is a virtual machine running in the cloud and you are VNC'ing in from your browser.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by DannyBee »

richdougherty wrote: post #34
flixic wrote: post #14

Well this is interesting. Their FAQ[0] contains some more information, but still does not explain everything. They say "however, instead of being installed on your local machine, it is running in a virtualized environment so can be accessed from any Chrome browser or Chromebook. Because this version of Photoshop is running in a virtualized environment, you open, save, export and recover files from/to your Google Driv…

I suspect that it's built using Native Client ( https://developer.chrome.com/native-client ), not using VNC. "Streaming" in this context probably means that the code and files are dynamically served by the server, rather than referring to streaming video.

No, it's actually streaming. As the link says, they run managed vm's and stream it. As someone else says, VNC is really old technology. We can do better.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by TkTech »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #25

Wouldn't it make more sense to port this to a "real" Linux first? Photoshop is often quoted as a killer app that keeps people on Windows.

CS6 already has gold status under Wine, works quite well. They could "port" it to Linux just by wrapping it in a Wine container and fixing a few bugs, much like gog does with games (using both Wine & dosbox)

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by DannyBee »

bshimmin wrote: post #11
arscan wrote: post #9

For those wondering how the "streaming" version of Photoshop is implemented: Project Photoshop Streaming is identical to the Photoshop you’d install locally with a few notable exceptions. This build can be accessed from any Chrome browser (Windows only) or Chromebook and does not require a full download and install. In other words, this is the same build of Photoshop you’d typically download and install from Creative…

I'm pretty excited to see how utterly wretched the performance will be!

Yeah, all those people who bought chromebooks for their bleeding edge performance will be really upset.

Re: Adobe joins the Chromebook party, starting with Photoshop

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Post by ihsw »

I have some serious doubts about the usefulness of this -- considering how long it will take to "open" a large PSD file.

There's also the issue of sensitive/confidential content -- Adobe is putting a very large bulls-eye on themselves. Since your PSD/etc files are being uploaded to Adobe to "open" Photoshop, they'll have to be stored there, and that is very attractive to nefarious individuals.

I understand that in actuality the files are stored on Google Drive, but the data itself eventually exits Google's network to enter Adobe's. I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe keeps copies around for their own convenience, eg: caching or historical metrics.

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