Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies
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Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies
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#2There is a lot to digest, but so far this this looks like an excellent example of critical thinking, regardless of one's feelings or intuition regarding systemd. Both proponents and detractors have much to be thankful for in this article.
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#3"shell scripts are not inherently buggy" not the week to argue that point.
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#4"shell scripts are not inherently buggy" not the week to argue that point.
It's not shell scripts, it's /bin/bash -- the guy fieri of shells.
Re: Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies
#5There is a lot to digest, but so far this this looks like an excellent example of critical thinking, regardless of one's feelings or intuition regarding systemd. Both proponents and detractors have much to be thankful for in this article.
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#6There is a lot to digest, but so far this this looks like an excellent example of critical thinking, regardless of one's feelings or intuition regarding systemd. Both proponents and detractors have much to be thankful for in this article.
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Surely the arguments against systemd's monolithic nature and complexity are technical arguments?
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#7I am getting so sick of these blogs for or against systemd.
It is free software. If you do not want to use it, use a distro without it. And vice versa if you want it. And if you don't like that Debian or Canonical or Arch a few years back or OpenSuse have switched to using it... too bad, you are not the maintainer of the repos, and if you were an active member of the community with voting power, you were outvoted. That means a majority of people with stake in these distros wanted systemd, and it is their project.
Make your own distro without it if you don't want it. Or use one of the dozens of distros that don't use systemd, or one of the forks that have been made to remove systemd already.
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#8I am getting so sick of these blogs for or against systemd. It is free software. If you do not want to use it, use a distro without it. And vice versa if you want it. And if you don't like that Debian or Canonical or Arch a few years back or OpenSuse have switched to using it... too bad, you are not the maintainer of the repos, and if you were an active member of the community with voting power, you were outvoted. Th…
It's obvious you didn't even read the article.
EDIT: I don't know the motivation for the downvotes. I replied like this because the commenter posted a canned cookie-cutter reply that is addressed in the article as Fallacy #6.1.
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#9"shell scripts are not inherently buggy" not the week to argue that point.
It's not shell scripts, it's /bin/bash -- the guy fieri of shells.
Which also happens to be the default or expected shell in the majority of sysv installs on Linux. '/bin/sh' symlinks to bash, shell scripts specify '/bin/sh' So it's another example of a distinction without a difference to single out bash. Most sysadmins cannot just switch to ZSH to to write their init scripts.
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#10First of all, thanks for linking to uselessd.
The writeup was quite nice. I was actually in the process of writing my own notes to respond to Poettering's "The Biggest Myths", but your approach is better. I'll definitely use it as a reference to link to in discussions.
That said, I have a little caveat for #9. Though systemd violating KISS is virtually undeniable, you should reword it so as to point it out on systemd's own merits, not in relation to sysvinit, which systemd explicitly intends to be more complex than.