When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by benbreen » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 2:23 AM UTC

When Global Warming Kills Your God
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Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by gd1 » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 10:23 AM UTC

Yawn. Someone will have to update the list:

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by phaemon » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 10:31 AM UTC

gd1 wrote: post #2

Yawn. Someone will have to update the list: http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

I have to wonder about the wits of someone who thinks that something can't be true, because it causes so many problems.

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by gambiting » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 10:45 AM UTC

Globar Warming is definitely contributing to this process, but I think some people are definitely trying to fight natural processes which would have happened anyway. Sure, it's sad that a village or a road got taken by water - but that would have happened eventually anyway, right?

In Poland there used to be a church build right by the sea on a cliff - but the sea has eroded the cliff(as seas do), and now only one wall of that church stands, on a tiny piece of land , and which is getting further eroded every single year. Yet because the church(or rather, those few bricks of the last remaining wall) have a religious significance to some people, millions of zlotys are spent each year trying to reinforce that one remaining bit of rock. Why? The cliff erosion is a completely natural process which was bound to happen. And there are even people who say it's "work of god" that the wall is still standing - while to others it's completely clear that only massive reinforcements that are built with hard cash are keeping it standing.

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by phaemon » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 11:09 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #4

Globar Warming is definitely contributing to this process, but I think some people are definitely trying to fight natural processes which would have happened anyway. Sure, it's sad that a village or a road got taken by water - but that would have happened eventually anyway, right? In Poland there used to be a church build right by the sea on a cliff - but the sea has eroded the cliff(as seas do), and now only one wal…

Well, yes, it would have happened eventually, but consider that it's like the difference between death and murder.

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by burke » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 11:17 AM UTC

phaemon wrote: post #3

gd1 wrote: post #2

Yawn. Someone will have to update the list: http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

I have to wonder about the wits of someone who thinks that something can't be true, because it causes so many problems.

The list doesn't seem to imply that global warming isn't happening; just that people are pretty quick to blame things on it.

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by qwerta » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 11:17 AM UTC

CO2 is poisoning salmon. Stop it!

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by themartorana » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 11:26 AM UTC

I highly doubt that the Yup’ik fishermen are even contributors to global climate change, but we expect them to then completely stop fishing the waters they have fished for decades because of change we're largely to blame for?

From forced settlements to fishing bans, we're still forcing our will on indigenous people.

Edit: the religious argument does seem a stretch to me, and wouldn't be necessary if common sense was used.

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by DanBC » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 11:41 AM UTC

burke wrote: post #6

phaemon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to wonder about the wits of someone who thinks that something can't be true, because it causes so many problems.

The list doesn't seem to imply that global warming isn't happening; just that people are pretty quick to blame things on it.

That's a great point that needs to be made. Science reporting sucks.

Sadly that particular version of the list was created by someone who thinks climate change is bunk and the list is a tool used to deny climate change.

Re: When Global Warming Kills Your God

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Post by spindritf » Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 12:14 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #4

Globar Warming is definitely contributing to this process, but I think some people are definitely trying to fight natural processes which would have happened anyway. Sure, it's sad that a village or a road got taken by water - but that would have happened eventually anyway, right? In Poland there used to be a church build right by the sea on a cliff - but the sea has eroded the cliff(as seas do), and now only one wal…

I don't think the ruins have any particular religious significance. It's protected because it's a landmark. Even the communists tried to stop the erosion.

Oh, and it was built like a mile from the sea originally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruins_of_the_church_in_Trz%C4%...