I didn't see anyone compare this success at first attempt with the (partial) failure of Jade Rabbit https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7226307 however that seems a more interesting comparison between newcomers to space exploration rather than, say, NASA missions.
ISRO Mars Orbiter Mission: Spacecraft successfully enters Martian Orbit
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#152People who keep making the (nonsense) point of space vs. better roads keep harping on how the money will be better spent on infrastructure. I looked up the Indian planning commission's budget for 2013-14 road development. Planning Commission provided an annual outlay of Rs.37,300.00 Crore for 2013-2014 for development in road sector[1]. That is more than 6 billion USD - just for improving roads, for a year. The budge…
A project like this could eventually help feed the poor. With such an efficient project, other countries would invest in India's space technology, hence bringing in wealth in the long run (to feed poor, among other uses).
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#153People who keep making the (nonsense) point of space vs. better roads keep harping on how the money will be better spent on infrastructure. I looked up the Indian planning commission's budget for 2013-14 road development. Planning Commission provided an annual outlay of Rs.37,300.00 Crore for 2013-2014 for development in road sector[1]. That is more than 6 billion USD - just for improving roads, for a year. The budge…
Thanks for providing some "hard data" and backing it up with references! It always irks me when people make such armchair-social-economist claims (which IMO, are ultimately only populism driven). As to ISRO: you've made me feel proud to be an Indian! Ad Astra!!!
Per aspera ad astra !
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#154People who keep making the (nonsense) point of space vs. better roads keep harping on how the money will be better spent on infrastructure. I looked up the Indian planning commission's budget for 2013-14 road development. Planning Commission provided an annual outlay of Rs.37,300.00 Crore for 2013-2014 for development in road sector[1]. That is more than 6 billion USD - just for improving roads, for a year. The budge…
Here is a straightforward reason that no one who claims to be some sort of economist (social or otherwise) can argue against: India has 1.2 billion people and is not particularly endowed with wealth that it can dig out of the ground. So the only way to create wealth is to turn 'sand-into-silicon' aka make productivity gains using the only abundant resource it has - the human resource. Now if this particular mission c…
Population of India: 1.252 billion people.
0.0001% o that: 1252 people.
GDP of India: 1.877 trillion USD.
Per capita: 1499.
So if we just applied these figures to the above number of people, we get an increase in GDP of 1.876 million USD. Which is not much. I know you were making a point.
I think this is an unfair calculation because it's not taking into account the fact that those people will go into STEM-type jobs. So it might be a good idea to compare it to the IT industry of India that produces revenues of 100 billion USD using 2.8 million people. That's 35 USD per person.
Combining this figure and the one above yields a rough GDP increase of 45 million dollars. We're certainly getting there in terms of order of magnitude.
To put things into perspective, 0.0001% is 1 in a million!
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
> “When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or…
Please, stop with the philosophical garbage. I'm not Indian, but I'm proud of them and very happy for them. We at Hacker News tend to call ourselves hackers, programmers, techies, entrepreneurs, geeks, etc. Are we also being violent?
You can choose to become a programmer, but you can't choose to be born Indian. I imagine you would take offence if I said I am proud to be white? If people keep saying they are proud because of things they didn't choose, then that breeds social differences.
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#156People who keep making the (nonsense) point of space vs. better roads keep harping on how the money will be better spent on infrastructure. I looked up the Indian planning commission's budget for 2013-14 road development. Planning Commission provided an annual outlay of Rs.37,300.00 Crore for 2013-2014 for development in road sector[1]. That is more than 6 billion USD - just for improving roads, for a year. The budge…
Slightly off topic, but it depresses me greatly that maintaining/building roads is STILL such an expensive endeavor. How are poor countries ever supposed to have passable public transit systems?
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#157I remember when in 2012, the then PM of India had declared this project. The entire internet community came together to deride this, saying it's not possible in a couple of years and that India had better feed its hungry etc. I am a very proud Indian today. This achievement, like other by humanity (LHC in particular), will encourage me to push myself towards greatness.
> “When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or…
Not very deep.Separation is not always violent,sometimes separation is an act of care and sometimes it's an act of prevention.Separation is neccessary.The 'rest of mankind' is sometimes not the space where you want to spend your life in.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe I should rephrase. Is this mission a scientific achievement? It could be a economics/accounting/marketing/HR/logistics achievement, but what is new scientifically?
do you understand enough "science" to fathom "scientific achievement"? If the people behind the mission explained to you "science" in it and what are the "scientific achievement", would you understand them?
Er yes I can. I want to know what is new since the 1971 orbiter success, and why India cannot put a rover on Mars.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
do you understand enough "science" to fathom "scientific achievement"? If the people behind the mission explained to you "science" in it and what are the "scientific achievement", would you understand them?
Er yes I can. I want to know what is new since the 1971 orbiter success, and why India cannot put a rover on Mars.
India isbuilding the infrastructure that will allow them to put rovers, and possibly humans, on Mars.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here is a straightforward reason that no one who claims to be some sort of economist (social or otherwise) can argue against: India has 1.2 billion people and is not particularly endowed with wealth that it can dig out of the ground. So the only way to create wealth is to turn 'sand-into-silicon' aka make productivity gains using the only abundant resource it has - the human resource. Now if this particular mission c…
Population of India: 1.252 billion people. 0.0001% o that: 1252 people. GDP of India: 1.877 trillion USD. Per capita: 1499. So if we just applied these figures to the above number of people, we get an increase in GDP of 1.876 million USD. Which is not much. I know you were making a point. I think this is an unfair calculation because it's not taking into account the fact that those people will go into STEM-type jobs.…
100 billion using 2.8 million people is 35K per person.