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Art project: Train rats to trade markets

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Re: Art project: Train rats to trade markets

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Post by lmm »

camillomiller wrote: post #2

I am no AI expert, but couldn't a modern AI be trained more or less in the same way?

"AI" is not a single thing. There are some projects that you train to respond to signals, sure. Some of them are already in use in HFT. Modern trading tends to use a lot more inputs than just the historic price though - you also look at wire services, twitter, etc. So I wouldn't expect this to be competitive without having access to more data.

Re: Art project: Train rats to trade markets

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Post by digitailor »

lmm wrote: post #4
camillomiller wrote: post #2

I am no AI expert, but couldn't a modern AI be trained more or less in the same way?

"AI" is not a single thing. There are some projects that you train to respond to signals, sure. Some of them are already in use in HFT. Modern trading tends to use a lot more inputs than just the historic price though - you also look at wire services, twitter, etc. So I wouldn't expect this to be competitive without having access to more data.

Wasn't the point that the rats only reacted the the live feed, and didn't have any ancillary data? That ticker tracks converted to sound were enough to perform strikingly well in terms of deciding holding moves?

...the training was almost finished; the performances of the top 4 rats had turned out to be comparable to those of the world' s best fund managers. Their ability to recognize sound patterns generated from the market's ticker tape was incredible. And the rat traders also hold another advantage: unlike their human counterparts, they are not likely to be distracted from news or economy fundamentals, their own personal or their bank's financial status.

Re: Art project: Train rats to trade markets

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Post by bayesianhorse »

digitailor wrote: post #5
lmm wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"AI" is not a single thing. There are some projects that you train to respond to signals, sure. Some of them are already in use in HFT. Modern trading tends to use a lot more inputs than just the historic price though - you also look at wire services, twitter, etc. So I wouldn't expect this to be competitive without having access to more data.

Wasn't the point that the rats only reacted the the live feed, and didn't have any ancillary data? That ticker tracks converted to sound were enough to perform strikingly well in terms of deciding holding moves? ...the training was almost finished; the performances of the top 4 rats had turned out to be comparable to those of the world' s best fund managers. Their ability to recognize sound patterns generated from th…

A random number generator outperforms most fund managers...
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