Australian Government Scrambles to Authorize Mass Surveillance
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#2It's not a surprise really our streets are literally awash with headless corpses
Re: Australian Government Scrambles to Authorize Mass Surveillance
#3This is Australia's Executive Order 12333 moment:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/meet-executive-order-12333-the-reagan-rule-that-lets-the-nsa-spy-on-americans/2014/07/18/93d2ac22-0b93-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.htmlRe: Australian Government Scrambles to Authorize Mass Surveillance
#4It's not a surprise really our streets are literally awash with headless corpses
What do you mean by this?
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#5I find it greatly concerning that laws are passed with such haste, and then justified by very recent events. To clarify, the two recent events which seem to be frequently cited by the law makers is:
* An anti-terrorism raid across two states, which charged one person and questioned several others. This happened a couple of weeks ago.
* A tragic incident in which an 18yo stabbed two police officers and then was shot dead. This happened a few days ago.
I fail to see how any of the provisions in the new laws are able to be justified by either of these events.
Firstly, the anti-terrorism raids worked seemingly well without the yet-to-be-passed-laws. They successfully used existing laws to thwart a plan that allegedly involved the beheading of random members of the public.
Secondly, no amount of surveillance or detaining will stop a determined individual from being able to stab somebody who is standing right in front of them.
So as troubling as these two events were, it is also troubling that they are being used in this manner by politicians of both major persuasions.
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#6It's not a surprise really our streets are literally awash with headless corpses
What do you mean by this?
He means that people have to wade through a seething froth of semi-coagulated blood, hair, and brains while on their morning commute. Obviously due to the extreme terrorist threat arising in Australia to warrant such an equally extreme response as streamlining mass surveillance.
/sarcasm
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#7Prime Minister Abbott needs to whip up hysteria and panic to try to distract people from his government's incredibly poor performance and disastrous budget.
A nice solid war along with deep fear mongering should regain control of the media message.
I simply don't believe we are under threat of attack from knife wielding beheading terrorists.
The poor kid who died the other day was probably just mentally ill but its to Abbott's great advantage to be able to point and say LOOK, BEHEADING TERRORISTS IN OUR SUBURBS COMING FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, WE NEED TO RAPIDLY REMOVE YOUR LIBERTIES AND PRIVACY!
The first Iraq cured me of any belief in what governments ask citizens to believe.
I feel deep terror at what our government will do to us.
The good news for Australians is that Tony Abbott has decided that we are no longer getting a fibre to the home national broadband network because that was too expensive, HOWEVER thankfully we are getting 86 F-35 Joint Strike fighter aeroplanes. http://www.news.com.au/national/tony-abbott-to-approve-austr...
Re: Australian Government Scrambles to Authorize Mass Surveillance
#8I find it greatly concerning that laws are passed with such haste, and then justified by very recent events. To clarify, the two recent events which seem to be frequently cited by the law makers is: * An anti-terrorism raid across two states, which charged one person and questioned several others. This happened a couple of weeks ago. * A tragic incident in which an 18yo stabbed two police officers and then was shot d…
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#9Aaahh tried and true, good strategy, First scare the shit out, and then tell them(people) we are here to protect you, look we need to come into your house now, so that we can save you.
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#10I think that the Government is manipulating the people and that these new laws will certainly be abused. I think that it is up to the entrepreneurial community to come up with solutions to help mitigate the situation. This can be achieved on several levels.
1. Help whistle blowers deliver material to overseas journalists 2. Create stronger security for journalists and whistle blowers to communicate 3. Find ways to better engage the public in the politics of today so that better political parties can thrive in the future and strengthen our constitution