A Site That Teaches You to Code Well Enough to Get a Job

Post by Schweigi » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 7:34 PM UTC

jiggy2011 wrote: post #151

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The content of an apprenticeship is defined on a higher level and not by technology. So it doesn't really matter what kind of technology the company uses. Examples would be: Can read&write a spec, can develop a program based on a spec and so on. The more theoretical part is usually done in school wich all apprentice from the different companies attend.

How does the student learn the actual programming language in this case? Is that the responsibility of the employer to teach?

Post by LLWM » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 7:44 PM UTC

lutusp wrote: post #33

koevet wrote: post #22

I find it interesting that the list of supported languages doesn't include Java, which is one of the most, if not the most, requested language - at least in the enterprise space.

I don't know anything specific about the site, but that might reflect an aesthetic bias overcoming the realization that Java is ubiquitous. It all depends on the degree to which a site's operators care about teaching what's being used in real-world projects. If I ran such a site, I might want to suppress my own aesthetic preferences, but even I would probably exclude PHP, as one example, only because it doesn't repre…

Post by ulisesrmzroche » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 7:50 PM UTC

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i do have a github, but i don't think i would call it "good": https://github.com/mmcru?tab=repositories i can definitely improve it, and that is something i have been working on. thanks for the advice though; i really appreciate it. i agree with you that ideally i would be working under some more senior programmers to improve my skills.

I also took a look at your contributions - looks a bit spotty! https://github.com/mmcru No activity in the last month? Something I personally would pick up on.

Post by collyw » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 8:01 PM UTC

roywiggins wrote: post #61

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And this is why I always use PHP as an introductory language if I have to teach web dev; the setup part is much more straightforward than it is for Rails/Django/etc., and you don't have to spend a ton of time teaching dozens of concepts (MVC, routes, templating, git, unit tests, ORMs, etc.) before the students can have mini web apps written. Some programmers balk at the idea of teaching PHP with plain HTML/CSS instea…

Flask. Flask Flask Flask. It's well-documented, in Python, and you can push it to Heroku easy as pie. You can add things like templates (they're built in, and can be really simple) or just concatenate HTML the old-fashioned way. You can program very imperatively and work up to abstractions. It's very friendly. I haven't seen it used as an introductory "language" but I feel like it would work well.

Post by jschulenklopper » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 8:06 PM UTC

  To solve the problem, she created a site last year that presents the
  practice problems and prevents students from being able to move on to the
  next ones without submitting a solution to the previous problem.