Israel’s N.S.A. Scandal
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Israel’s N.S.A. Scandal
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#2Why was the title changed? Here's the operative paragraph from the article below - there is a document that indicates the NSA is spying on porn visits of ordinary Americans to use against them in intimidation for exercising their rights to free speech. It doesn't get any worse than this.
"It should also trouble Americans that the N.S.A. could head down a similar path in this country. Indeed, there is some indication, from a top-secret 2012 document from Mr. Snowden’s leaked files that I saw last year, that it already is. The document, from Gen. Keith B. Alexander, then the director of the N.S.A., notes that the agency had been compiling records of visits to pornographic websites and proposes using that information to damage the reputations of people whom the agency considers “radicalizers” — not necessarily terrorists, but those attempting, through the use of incendiary speech, to radicalize others. (The Huffington Post has published a redacted version of the document.)"
[Edit] For reference, the original title was: "NSA spying on porn visits of ordinary Americans" - which is exactly what they seem to be doing.
Re: Israel’s N.S.A. Scandal
#3Instead of being buried at the end of the article, Bamford's penultimate paragraph
In Moscow, Mr. Snowden told me that the document
reminded him of the F.B.I.’s overreach during the days
of J. Edgar Hoover, when the bureau abused its powers to
monitor and harass political activists. “It’s much like
how the F.B.I. tried to use Martin Luther King’s
infidelity to talk him into killing himself,” he said.
“We said those kinds of things were inappropriate back
in the ’60s. Why are we doing that now? Why are we
getting involved in this again?”
We can't fix this by working within the system. That's what the Church Committee tried to do. They failed. There is no reason to think their twenty-first century counterparts will not fail again.
Re: Israel’s N.S.A. Scandal
#4Why was the title changed? Here's the operative paragraph from the article below - there is a document that indicates the NSA is spying on porn visits of ordinary Americans to use against them in intimidation for exercising their rights to free speech. It doesn't get any worse than this. "It should also trouble Americans that the N.S.A. could head down a similar path in this country. Indeed, there is some indication,…
Don't forget the JTRIG program, either.
Discrediting anyone looking to change the status quo.
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#5Instead of being buried at the end of the article, Bamford's penultimate paragraph In Moscow, Mr. Snowden told me that the document reminded him of the F.B.I.’s overreach during the days of J. Edgar Hoover, when the bureau abused its powers to monitor and harass political activists. “It’s much like how the F.B.I. tried to use Martin Luther King’s infidelity to talk him into killing himself,” he said. “We said those k…
Okay, if not fixing it by working within the system, then what is the next step?
Re: Israel’s N.S.A. Scandal
#6Why was the title changed? Here's the operative paragraph from the article below - there is a document that indicates the NSA is spying on porn visits of ordinary Americans to use against them in intimidation for exercising their rights to free speech. It doesn't get any worse than this. "It should also trouble Americans that the N.S.A. could head down a similar path in this country. Indeed, there is some indication,…
Don't forget the JTRIG program, either. Discrediting anyone looking to change the status quo.
Yes, they get to designate "radicalizers" with almost no oversight.
Re: Israel’s N.S.A. Scandal
#7Why was the title changed? Here's the operative paragraph from the article below - there is a document that indicates the NSA is spying on porn visits of ordinary Americans to use against them in intimidation for exercising their rights to free speech. It doesn't get any worse than this. "It should also trouble Americans that the N.S.A. could head down a similar path in this country. Indeed, there is some indication,…
HN's Guidelines say to use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait.
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#8Instead of being buried at the end of the article, Bamford's penultimate paragraph In Moscow, Mr. Snowden told me that the document reminded him of the F.B.I.’s overreach during the days of J. Edgar Hoover, when the bureau abused its powers to monitor and harass political activists. “It’s much like how the F.B.I. tried to use Martin Luther King’s infidelity to talk him into killing himself,” he said. “We said those k…
Okay, if not fixing it by working within the system, then what is the next step?
Those working within the system should follow Snowden's example, IMHO. Force the government to either stop these practices altogether, or reveal their true cost to the American way of life.
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#9Why was the title changed? Here's the operative paragraph from the article below - there is a document that indicates the NSA is spying on porn visits of ordinary Americans to use against them in intimidation for exercising their rights to free speech. It doesn't get any worse than this. "It should also trouble Americans that the N.S.A. could head down a similar path in this country. Indeed, there is some indication,…
HN's Guidelines say to use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
The article clearly states the NSA is cataloging porn visits of ordinary Americans exercising their rights to free speech. How was the title not appropriate?
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
HN's Guidelines say to use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
The article clearly states the NSA is cataloging porn visits of ordinary Americans exercising their rights to free speech. How was the title not appropriate?
The given title was not appropriate because it did not fit the HN rule of "Use the original title"