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Re: Talko

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Post by socrates2014 » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 2:13 PM UTC

Renaud wrote: post #30

programmer_dude wrote: post #27

>The software visionary who created Lotus Notes Stopped reading after this.

Lotus Notes was revolutionary and visionary when it came out, in 1989 . That it failed to really adapt to a changing technological landscape and failed to meet user expectations is more an indictment of the management at Lotus/IBM than an indictment of the initial creator.

Didn't the Web overtake Lotus Notes for many purposes? No server to pay for, open to anyone, etc...

Re: Talko

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Post by gonehome » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 3:29 PM UTC

tantalor wrote: post #21

gonehome wrote: post #10

Voice isn't the clearest or the fastest way to communicate. I'd suggest the opposite - that's it's slow, unclear and probably the worst form of digital communication. There's no good log, it's not silent, you can't link to other information (or copy it) and it requires one person to stop talking before another can start. This all aside, iOS 8 now let's you send voice messages in the default messages app - seems like…

Voice is much more clear because it conveys nuance, such as sarcasm, which text cannot. I bet speaking is much faster than typing for most people, although reading is faster than listening. Voice (sound) is analog, not digital! Converting voice to text solves a lot of these problems, but this app doesn't do that.

I'd argue that nuance is harder to determine through voice on a phone when you can't read body language and have a harder time hearing them. It's pretty easy through text when you know the person or use an emoticon. Videochat is definitely better than text for that reason though still don't have a log or ability to search/copy.

By digital I meant communicating with some sort of digital device and not face to face or through a letter.

Re: Talko

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Post by threatofrain » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 5:41 PM UTC

marcusf wrote: post #25

tantalor wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not. Collaborative editing is. People were using file syncing for asynchronous collaborative editing. File syncing is not such a big deal now that we have synchronous collaborative editors.

Dropbox?

I'd say Google Drive, because the web app is so complete and nice that for simple purposes, you wouldn't mind not installing the desktop client, especially since you edit the files on the web anyway. So off-site storage + collaborative editing = Google Drive. Dropbox, on the other hand, is mostly a file syncing service; they may have some photo features on their web app, but that's it outside of file syncing.

Re: Talko

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Post by marcusf » Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 9:51 PM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #53

marcusf wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox?

I'd say Google Drive, because the web app is so complete and nice that for simple purposes, you wouldn't mind not installing the desktop client, especially since you edit the files on the web anyway. So off-site storage + collaborative editing = Google Drive. Dropbox, on the other hand, is mostly a file syncing service; they may have some photo features on their web app, but that's it outside of file syncing.

Can't disagree with GDrive being awesome. However, I was responding to the parent's suggestion that the parent's parent's quote was negated by e.g. GDrive.

With less double negatives: File syncing has actually turned out to be a pretty big thing, it just took (and this might be a bad list, but off the top of my head) 1. mobile adoption, 2. higher avg bandwidth and 3. someone getting it right. GDrive/Evernote/… does not negate that there is a demand for Dropbox.