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Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by orbifold »

CGudapati wrote: post #44
dharma1 wrote: post #38

nice. I think it's just a question of time until someone makes a web based Photoshop killer again though. Wonder how much of Adobe's revenue is based on Photoshop (or inclusion of Photoshop in CC)

I think a web based killer is very far away in the time line. I recently was trying to make a huge gird in Photoshop and my i7+10gbRAM computer was unable to handle it. I think very simple stuff like annotating and cropping/red-eye fix can be done but I think a web based photo editor will fail when huge performance is required.

Not sure what your exact setup was, but your graphics card might simply have run out of memory. Which would then have happened pretty much independently from the software you were using.

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by CaptainZapp »

liquidise wrote: post #43
booruguru wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Others, like Yahoo and Adobe, get panned for similar moves as trying to eliminate competing products or otherwise flailing capital. Yahoo destroys everything it touches, except Flick (which could have been Instagram before there was Instagram...but settled on just being good enough to stay alive). Adobe makes a lot of bloated, expensive products of questionable value. It's not a horrible company, but nobody would b…

Let's be clear: a mobile photo editing app is in not a Photoshop competitor. Adobe products are created for professionals. They are not bloated, they are filled with tons of features that save artists time. Case in point: watch a photoshop keynote and see the crowd reactions. As for yahoo, you have done well to demonstrate my point concisely.

   Adobe products are created for professionals.
This is undoubtedly the case. What boggles the mind, though, is that a company, which caters to pros first forces them into the cloud, to then run into a massive outage, which renders those products, on which pros rely, useless. For hours, or days. [1]

Let's also not forget the Dmitry Sklyarov affair, which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And I believe, rightfully so. [2]

Their online security also doesn't seem quite up to scratch for a company priding itself on its offerings for professionals.

There are a lot of reasons to intensely dislike Adobe as a company without even looking at their product offerings.

[1] http://www.techrepublic.com/article/adobe-creative-cloud-out...

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._ElcomSoft_and_...

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by blumkvist »

dharma1 wrote: post #38

nice. I think it's just a question of time until someone makes a web based Photoshop killer again though. Wonder how much of Adobe's revenue is based on Photoshop (or inclusion of Photoshop in CC)

>Wonder how much of Adobe's revenue is based on Photoshop (or inclusion of Photoshop in CC)

I don't think it's much. I imagine most of the revenue, or at least where the healthy margins are, is the marketing and publishing clouds. Extremely lucrative enterprise software.

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by justrandomanon »

dharma1 wrote: post #38

nice. I think it's just a question of time until someone makes a web based Photoshop killer again though. Wonder how much of Adobe's revenue is based on Photoshop (or inclusion of Photoshop in CC)

Is a web based photoshop something anyone needs? (I'm talking an app with comparable features, not a basic photo editor).

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by welly »

koenbok wrote: post #28
mmanfrin wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the negativity comes not from the fact that Adobe bought them, but that Aviary was the main, visible competition to Adobe. Google and Apple get panned all the time for acquisitions, what are you talking about? Did you not see the thread when Apple announced they were buying Beats? Or every other Google-acquisition thread about users bemoaning the possible shuttering of the purchased service? People aren't hat…

I think the competition is Sketch and Pixate.

Pixate? How is Pixate in any way a competitor to Photoshop? It's a completely different product. Are you thinking of Pixelmator?

http://www.pixelmator.com/

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by 1stop »

CaptainZapp wrote: post #52
liquidise wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be clear: a mobile photo editing app is in not a Photoshop competitor. Adobe products are created for professionals. They are not bloated, they are filled with tons of features that save artists time. Case in point: watch a photoshop keynote and see the crowd reactions. As for yahoo, you have done well to demonstrate my point concisely.

Adobe products are created for professionals. This is undoubtedly the case. What boggles the mind, though, is that a company, which caters to pros first forces them into the cloud, to then run into a massive outage, which renders those products, on which pros rely, useless. For hours, or days. [1] Let's also not forget the Dmitry Sklyarov affair, which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And I believe, rightfully s…

The Licensing component is in the cloud, not the software.

The "outage" was by-passable by dropping your internet connection when you opened the app(s). (Not ideal, but still a decent work-around).

What has "online security" got to do with Desktop publishing and photo editing (neither of which occur online)?

What are the reasons to intensely dislike them for?

There is not even a decent competitor to Photoshop, Illustrator, or InDesign (Pixelmator and Sketch are both great, but not anywhere near the breadth of Adobe's products... and that still leaves InDesign)... So if you 'intensely dislike' them and think they are so inadequate, then surely you can disrupt them fairly easily, no?

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by christoph »

jpablo wrote: post #16
ThomPete wrote: post #14

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There is a reason for this. It makes no sense to make a photoshop competitor as this is not where we are heading. Instead we are heading towards vectors as the primary asset which means toward visual editors that allow for scripting and much more granular control off assets such as animiation. In 5-10 years ex. Sketch and other much more dynamic environments will be one of the de-facto standards as the older generati…

Photoshop is for editing photos, not for drawing "assets". Unless you are trying to tell me that digital cameras will produce a vector drawing of scenes, I don't see bitmap editing software going away anytime soon, or ever.

I couldn't believe it when a colleague mentioned the other day I could open a video in Photoshop. I was convinced he was joking... but sure enough, you drag one in and get a timeline where you can scrub about it. I was shocked. Surprisingly since then, this feature has actually become quite handy for me in certain situations.

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by ThomPete »

orbifold wrote: post #50
ThomPete wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How it's intended is most certainly what doesn't matter given how many people use it for other things than photo-editing.

I think you possibly have a limited perspective on what people are using photoshop, I'm pretty sure every professional photographer uses it in some way or another, for instance as are print designers.

?? I am saying it's being used for other things than photo-editing how is that a limited perspective?

Re: Adobe Acquires Photo-Editing Platform Aviary

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Post by hammock »

mmanfrin wrote: post #20
liquidise wrote: post #13

Surprising negativity in here, an observation to consider: HN tends to be biased regarding acquisitions. Some companies, like Google or Apple, are praised for sage decisions and invaluable acqui-hires. Others, like Yahoo and Adobe, get panned for similar moves as trying to eliminate competing products or otherwise flailing capital. As i see it, Adobe identified a group of devs uniquely qualified to bring domain knowl…

I think the negativity comes not from the fact that Adobe bought them, but that Aviary was the main, visible competition to Adobe. Google and Apple get panned all the time for acquisitions, what are you talking about? Did you not see the thread when Apple announced they were buying Beats? Or every other Google-acquisition thread about users bemoaning the possible shuttering of the purchased service? People aren't hat…

Wouldn't closer competition be something like GIMP?
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