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Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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In my country Coke is used by plumbers to unblock drains and pipes. Just knowing that has always discouraged me from drinking it.

This sounds like the old "Leave a penny in a glass of Coke for 12 hours and it starts to dissolve." saw. Apple juice will do the same. Not that I'm a fan of Coke, I rarely drink it. Although it IS great for an upset stomach.

A million times this. I was ill for a long time. Coke was the only thing that settled my stomach.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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> coca-leaf which comes from South America and is processed in a unique US government authorized factory in New Jersey to remove its addictive stimulant cocaine According to Wikipedia "The Stepan Company is the only manufacturing plant authorized by the Federal Government to import and process the coca plant, which it obtains mainly from Peru and, to a lesser extent, Bolivia. Besides producing the coca flavoring agen…

Medicinal use clarification--an official from Mallinckrodt who "asked not to be named" had this to say: "We purchase a crude extract and purify it further into one chemical form, cocaine hydrochloride U.S.P." http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/01/business/how-coca-cola-obt... I looked that up because I don't work in health care: "Cocaine Hydrochloride is used topically to produce local anesthesia of accessible mucous mem…

Worth noting that powder cocaine used recreationally is usually (or always? not sure) Cocaine Hydrochloride too (though cut with non-cocaine as well, of course)

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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In my country Coke is used by plumbers to unblock drains and pipes. Just knowing that has always discouraged me from drinking it.

I'm not sure why knowing that would discourage you. I'm sure stomach acid would be even better at those tasks, yet your body handles it just fine. Vinegar is great at getting hard water spots of paint. That doesn't mean I stop dousing my fish & chips in the stuff.

Stomach acid is pretty awful on your mouth though. And you would never drink raw vinegar.

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How on earth is it hard to eat 2500 calories?! What do you eat? Paper and cardboard? If you find yourself 400 calories short, try a pork pie. If you're 800 calories short, eat two. If you're 1200 calories short, stop skipping lunch.

Who eats 1200 calories for lunch? A whole Chipotle burrito and a drink is only 900 and you'd have to eat that much for breakfast, dinner, and lunch to get past 2500 calories.

>> Who eats 1200 calories for lunch?

1 big mac 540 calories, 1 large fry, 500 calories 1 large Coke 32 oz 310 calories total

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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> The top of the can is then added. This is carefully engineered: it is made from aluminum, but it has to be thicker and stronger to withstand the pressure of the carbon dioxide gas, and so it uses an alloy with more magnesium than the rest of the can. Nope, the pressure from the carbon dioxide pushes equally against all sides of the can. If anything the pressure at the top is slightly lower than at the bottom, at le…

The pressure difference is trivial. The reason it has to be thicker is because the top is flatter than the sides (convex) and bottom (concave). If the top was domed up it could be thinner. Have you ever seen an overheated or frozen can? The top is usually bulging while the rest is still intact.

Actually most frozen cans have the bottom inverted, but I've only noticed this happen since about 2010. It used to be that a fully frozen can always used to blow.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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> The number of individuals who know how to make a can of Coke is zero. This reminds me a fact I remember time to time. If civilization collapses after, say, a world war, I most probably can't make a pot, can't grow plants, can't differentiate if one is edible or not, can't dig for petrol, can't make plastic (or even glass), can't reinvent concrete, can't make gunpowder etc., you get the point. I can only write softw…

This is true, but they kind of over did it with a heavy hand. My local beer company uses locally made beer bottles and local sources for most of its ingredients.

If the international supply chain falls through that has marginally dropped prices, they'll just switch back to the national one. Once they do bottle production will go through the roof, prices will rapidly drop and instead of it being $0.50 a can and $1.50 a glass bottle of coke it'll end up more like $0.75 a bottle.

I also don't think the world will end like people assume. Its not like the mediaeval dark ages, everyone reads and the books containing this knowledge are widely available.

Our biggest issue is the international supply chains, but people should look up the tin trade if they think there wasn't always an international supply chain. We just didn't ship things back and forth around the globe multiple times in some instances.

I think most people would be surprised that if the world ended tomorrow, we would probably be back to the 1900's level of development by the end of an individuals lifespan.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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Seriously I think outright rejection of all sweetened drinks is probably the best ROI for a dietary change one can make. The whole truth about what soda pop and other heavily engineered processed foods do to one's metabolism and general health is going to be shocking to people when it is finally revealed, and I think tooth enamel is the least of your worries.

Sodas are sugar water. We already know what sugar does: provide clean, metabolically efficient, allergen free calories. If you're on the road or out and about and hungry, a coke is often the healthiest choice you can make. The quality of options such as fruits and meat and baked goods are typically atrocious at convenience stores and fast food restaurants. Just get a coke and some milk. Available at McDonald's and ga…

Uh, just do yourself a huge favor - grab the milk and forget the coke.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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This is my favorite sentence of the article: > Modern tool chains are so long and complex that they bind us into one people and one planet. When we think about colonizing the Moon or Mars with small groups of people with the intention of making the colonies self-sustaining over time, deep, long-evolved tool chains like the one described in the article could be very difficult to scale down and to replicate in other en…

They'd never be truly self-sustaining - that's borderline impossible if you want any kind of quality and growth. There will always be a supply line from Earth and other colonies.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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Speaking as somebody who's never even smoked a cigarette or a joint: are there people who tried to recreate the "original" coke recipe? The one with "unprocessed" coca leaves? Is it available on say the latest instance of Silk Road? What is it like?

I bet it would be pretty mild - like a cup of ephedrine tea (banned for a while now, how stupid). Cocaine, even in its pure form, is not that much of a stimulant and it has a short half-life - methamphetamine or even amphetamine would be much better choices. Or just grab some phenylethylamine while it's still legal.

Re: What Coke Contains (2013)

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How on earth is it hard to eat 2500 calories?! What do you eat? Paper and cardboard? If you find yourself 400 calories short, try a pork pie. If you're 800 calories short, eat two. If you're 1200 calories short, stop skipping lunch.

Who eats 1200 calories for lunch? A whole Chipotle burrito and a drink is only 900 and you'd have to eat that much for breakfast, dinner, and lunch to get past 2500 calories.

Well, perhaps my post was mildly facetious. Just that going by my recollection of the period I was monitoring my food intake, 2500 calories per day didn't seem that hard. Though having consulted the spreadsheet I kept in order to double check, I have to admit that it looks like it isn't that hard to eat less either :)

Snacks can add up surprisingly quickly so if you do have a shortfall I'm not sure it's necessary to resort to eating sugar. For example, 2 bananas and a tin of salmon will be something like 500 calories. That's 20% of your budget right there.

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