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Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

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My startup is actually centered around this. If anyone wants to purchase a certificate through me, I'll happily give you the lowest rates I can. ($25 EV or $40 wildcard) Our homepage is https://certly.io , shoot me an email at ian@certly.io

Your home page is a "coming soon" page...

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

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post #39

My startup is actually centered around this. If anyone wants to purchase a certificate through me, I'll happily give you the lowest rates I can. ($25 EV or $40 wildcard) Our homepage is https://certly.io , shoot me an email at ian@certly.io

I am an early adopter, but the blank home page and blank blog are a little too early for my tastes.

We haven't launched yet, and won't be for a while. I'll probably write a post or two about the development soon.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

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Don't EV certs create a net increase in security risk (if any web users understood what they were supposed to mean)? I'm not expert in these issues, but I've always doubted their security value: EV certs are supposed to communicate certainty[1] to typical web users about identity, confidentiality, and integrity. But, if I understand correctly, obtaining EV certs in someone else's name (or something close enough to fo…

Could you explain more about obtaining it under someone else's name? There are many checks in place to prevent this.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

#44

My startup is actually centered around this. If anyone wants to purchase a certificate through me, I'll happily give you the lowest rates I can. ($25 EV or $40 wildcard) Our homepage is https://certly.io , shoot me an email at ian@certly.io

Your home page is a "coming soon" page...

We haven't launched yet, sorry if it was misleading but I can no longer edit it.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

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post #31

1. DigiCert. They're not the cheapest, but they really have their stuff together. Their support is awesome (speedy, technically competent, and human). They're also proactive about identifying issues with your certs, they handled the heartbleed incident perfectly - reissued for free with no issues. 2. No

DigiCert also has a nice "enterprise" offering where you can confirm your domain with them once then have role accounts that can approve and issue certificates without them needing to re-do verification. Others within your company can then make their own sub-accounts and request certificates. I've dealt with their support people a few times as well, and agree that they are fantastic.

This also exists with COMODO, Symantec and IIRC GeoTrust and Thawte.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should also do it for purely selfish reasons. Chrome is sunsetting SHA-1 for use in certificate signatures, and Chrome will eventually show SHA-1 certificates as insecure. Referring specifically to this point, and not to your wider point about moving away from SHA-1, "because one browser maker said so" is rarely a good reason to do anything. Google has an irritating habit of deciding it knows best for the entire…

Correction: two browser vendors who between them have more than half of the browser share. And the solid technical argument is that SHA-1 is no longer considered secure.

They don't have a majority on any site I run, but even if they did, that wouldn't be the point. Decisions about technical matters -- and particularly about security policies -- should be made on the basis of evidence, not appeals to authority.

For example, instead of saying "it's a good idea to do this because Google will show scary messages", it would be more helpful to link to a site with a test tool and explanatory information about the underlying issue, such as this one:

https://shaaaaaaaaaaaaa.com/

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

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Check out my startup, SSLMate: https://sslmate.com. What sets SSLMate apart is that we're working on making SSL certificate management extremely easy on Linux servers. You buy certs from the command line in a single step that takes a minute or less and automates important details like bundling the chain certificate. You can set up a cron job for automatic renewals. Even well-run sites have been known to forget or botch cert renewals, and we want to put an end to that by automating everything. Many features are in the pipeline and will be announced in the coming weeks.

Regarding EV certs, they're not worth the extra money and inconvenience. They provide no additional security, and the assurance they provide visitors is highly questionable (e.g. see shiftpgdn's comment about how switching to a non-EV cert resulted in absolutely no change in order metrics: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8344666).

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They charge for reissuing certs though. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7557764

That's not a good reason to skip over them. Unless you expect multiple Heartbleed-severity bugs to be exposed in two years you are still way ahead. Just don't lose your private key.

You actually only need a single one to make it cheaper to go elsewhere, they charged $25/revocation, which brings the price up to $85 which no longer makes them the most cost effective.

Heck for $99 you can buy a Comodo "EssentialSSL" wildcard, which grants you unlimited re-issue (plus you don't have to deal with StartSSL's terrible UI):

https://comodosslstore.com/essentialssl-wildcard.aspx

Re: Ask HN: What's the best company to buy an SSL certificate from?

#50

Th problem with EV (green bar) certs is the Browser usually ends up checking the certificate status via CRL or OCSP (URI is specified in the cert), which can add an additional .5 to 10+ seconds before the page is displayed. More so when the CA servers are down or the connection times out. So if you do go for an EV cert, go for the one that has the best listed uptime on it's CRL or OCSP servers. Having said that, I wo…

Such bad advice given the inquiry. Obviously. Lot of OP's customers are going to want the "best" certs (whatever that means). Or they're going to want "they're name in green".

It's important to answer in the context of the question.

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