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Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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Nope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JScript

(I know, that was the joke.)

Don't try to have a sense of humor on HN threads. You'll get modded into oblivion and have your joke disassembled and laid bare in an attempt to show how "unfunny" it might be. HN is serious business for serious people. Seriously.

Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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Well, good luck trying to enforce it... It's now a generic term for ECMAScript.

Strictly speaking, JavaScript is an implementation of ECMAScript, not merely a generic term.

IANAL, but it will depend on whether JavaScript is used by members of the public to refer to ECMAScript that isn't JavaScript (that's a mouthful).

In other words, I can call a fountain pen a biro and that shows that the trademark has become generic, it doesn't matter that I'm technically wrong.

This is how it works in Commonwealth jurisdictions anyway, haven't checked US law for about a year.

Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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Nothing to see here, everyone calls it ECMAScript.

But ECMAScript is a mouthful to say and sounds a bit like a skin condition, I don't think that's ever going to become the common name people use for it.

I propose we start a campaign to rename it EScript. I like the sound of that and we preserve the E for ECMA.

Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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Strictly speaking, JavaScript is an implementation of ECMAScript, not merely a generic term.

IANAL, but it will depend on whether JavaScript is used by members of the public to refer to ECMAScript that isn't JavaScript (that's a mouthful). In other words, I can call a fountain pen a biro and that shows that the trademark has become generic, it doesn't matter that I'm technically wrong. This is how it works in Commonwealth jurisdictions anyway, haven't checked US law for about a year.

It's the same. The issue is actual usage, not whatever meaning is correct.

Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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Wikipedia says: "Today, 'JavaScript' is a trademark of Oracle Corporation. It is used under license for technology invented and implemented by Netscape Communications and current entities such as the Mozilla Foundation." [1] It's one of a long list of Java-related trademarks originally registered by Sun: https://web.archive.org/web/20100528154600/http://www.sun.co... Maybe Sun originally intended it to be the name of…

For anyone interested is JS history, this is the most comprehensive explanation of where JavaScript got its name I've heard (from Brendan Eichs POV)[1]. The podcast also deals with lots of other JS related history like what languages influenced it, the circumstances it was created under and the politics surrounding its conception. It's a great listen.

[1] http://javascriptjabber.com/124-jsj-the-origin-of-javascript...

Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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post #11

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But ECMAScript is a mouthful to say and sounds a bit like a skin condition, I don't think that's ever going to become the common name people use for it.

I propose we start a campaign to rename it EScript. I like the sound of that and we preserve the E for ECMA.

How about eek-script? That preserves the first two phonetics of ECMA and sounds about right.

Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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Gah. It’s such a weird naming choice. I still have peers confusing Java and Javascript...

It's sort of elegant, nicely rounds up the whole collection of weird choices in JavaScript's design.

They aren't "weird" design choices. Most of them are just plain bad design choices.

Re: JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle

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Wikipedia says: "Today, 'JavaScript' is a trademark of Oracle Corporation. It is used under license for technology invented and implemented by Netscape Communications and current entities such as the Mozilla Foundation." [1] It's one of a long list of Java-related trademarks originally registered by Sun: https://web.archive.org/web/20100528154600/http://www.sun.co... Maybe Sun originally intended it to be the name of…

For anyone interested is JS history, this is the most comprehensive explanation of where JavaScript got its name I've heard (from Brendan Eichs POV)[1]. The podcast also deals with lots of other JS related history like what languages influenced it, the circumstances it was created under and the politics surrounding its conception. It's a great listen. [1] http://javascriptjabber.com/124-jsj-the-origin-of-javascript..…

This needs to be a parent comment. The episode was one of the best JJ episodes and a great JS backgound piece. Highly recommended.
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