I wonder if this has anything to with the massive decline in male teacher population.
Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
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Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#12I find this incredibly sexist. To say that girls worker harder than boys offends me greatly. These studies are never accurate and somewhat biased, and I think work ethic is something that can't be averaged out like this. I don't doubt a lot of girls out there do work harder than boys, but making statements like: " Girls succeed over boys in school because they are more apt to plan ahead, set academic goals, and put e…
Now you know how many women feel every day of their lives.
Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#13I find this incredibly sexist. To say that girls worker harder than boys offends me greatly. These studies are never accurate and somewhat biased, and I think work ethic is something that can't be averaged out like this. I don't doubt a lot of girls out there do work harder than boys, but making statements like: " Girls succeed over boys in school because they are more apt to plan ahead, set academic goals, and put e…
The entire point of the article is that the way schools grade may discriminate against boys. There are lots of articles about things that may discriminate against women. Society isn't perfect, writing articles that raise awareness is not sexist or discriminatory towards either sex.
Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#14I find this incredibly sexist. To say that girls worker harder than boys offends me greatly. These studies are never accurate and somewhat biased, and I think work ethic is something that can't be averaged out like this. I don't doubt a lot of girls out there do work harder than boys, but making statements like: " Girls succeed over boys in school because they are more apt to plan ahead, set academic goals, and put e…
"Academics" are a small biased sample of "K-12" or event college-level students.
Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#15I find this incredibly sexist. To say that girls worker harder than boys offends me greatly. These studies are never accurate and somewhat biased, and I think work ethic is something that can't be averaged out like this. I don't doubt a lot of girls out there do work harder than boys, but making statements like: " Girls succeed over boys in school because they are more apt to plan ahead, set academic goals, and put e…
It's not sexist to point out a fact: "Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys". This is almost universally true where statistics can be found, internationally and across all subjects. It's factual that girls perform better in school: you can decide what the reason for that is, but there must be a reason. It's the essential purpose of science to try and figure out the reasons - as they have here.
You then ask: Why are there just as many male academics as there are female? I would ask: Why do males fill out almost all highly skilled and/or highly paid fields, despite poorer school results on average.
This is a very important question which points out the true scale and direction of the problem.
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#16tl;dr; Girls work harder than boys and are more diligent about getting things done. Awesome for them. What's the problem? The article does raise one real issue - grades in school are based on more on obeying arbitrary rules than on actual mastery of the knowledge. That's a problem worth fixing. But it's a problem worth fixing because grades are measuring the wrong thing, and it's worth fixing regardless of it's affec…
To try to be fair, life is often more about obeying arbitrary rules than mastering certain subjects. Many of the things named in the article are important life skills that should be taught and encouraged.
Yes, I agree. "Self-restraint" in particular was emphasized in the article, and it's one I (a male) feel that I lack compared to female peers. So in my anecdata, sample size 1, it seemingly adds up.
My question would be: "why do females have a head-start in self-restraint, and why do males fail to catch up quickly?"
I suspect much of the answer could be cultural.
Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#17tl;dr; Girls work harder than boys and are more diligent about getting things done. Awesome for them. What's the problem? The article does raise one real issue - grades in school are based on more on obeying arbitrary rules than on actual mastery of the knowledge. That's a problem worth fixing. But it's a problem worth fixing because grades are measuring the wrong thing, and it's worth fixing regardless of it's affec…
To try to be fair, life is often more about obeying arbitrary rules than mastering certain subjects. Many of the things named in the article are important life skills that should be taught and encouraged.
Becoming an acceptably rewarded cubicle drone requires obeying a lot of arbitrary rules for many years. I wouldn't say life is about that.
School sucks and boys feel that more acutely, is the long and short of it in my view. Girls tend to tolerate or even like it because subservience is more in their nature. Women also tend to like moderate status corporate drone jobs that make a lot of men want to blow their brains out.
Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#18I find this incredibly sexist. To say that girls worker harder than boys offends me greatly. These studies are never accurate and somewhat biased, and I think work ethic is something that can't be averaged out like this. I don't doubt a lot of girls out there do work harder than boys, but making statements like: " Girls succeed over boys in school because they are more apt to plan ahead, set academic goals, and put e…
"Academics" are a small biased sample of "K-12" or event college-level students.
If a sample is biased, it is often interesting to ask "Why?"
Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
To try to be fair, life is often more about obeying arbitrary rules than mastering certain subjects. Many of the things named in the article are important life skills that should be taught and encouraged.
Becoming an acceptably rewarded cubicle drone requires obeying a lot of arbitrary rules for many years. I wouldn't say life is about that. School sucks and boys feel that more acutely, is the long and short of it in my view. Girls tend to tolerate or even like it because subservience is more in their nature. Women also tend to like moderate status corporate drone jobs that make a lot of men want to blow their brains…
> [women] like it because subservience is more in their nature
Wow, I agreed with the first half of what you said, but you really started going off the rails here.
1 No citations given.
2 "Subservience" is unlikely to be a genetic trait, which would mean you're engaging in negative reinforcement of a culturally-imposed patriarchal "value" for women to hold.
Even if subservience is a genetic trait, it's hardly reasonable to accuse someone of possessing it.
Re: Girls Get Better Grades Than Boys
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
To try to be fair, life is often more about obeying arbitrary rules than mastering certain subjects. Many of the things named in the article are important life skills that should be taught and encouraged.
Yes, I agree. "Self-restraint" in particular was emphasized in the article, and it's one I (a male) feel that I lack compared to female peers. So in my anecdata, sample size 1, it seemingly adds up. My question would be: " why do females have a head-start in self-restraint, and why do males fail to catch up quickly?" I suspect much of the answer could be cultural.
> I suspect much of the answer could be cultural.
I suspect much of the answer could be genetic. Males in primate species tend to be more aggressive and have less "self-restraint".