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I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
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Re: I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
#172Crackmes (as they're known) can be kind of fun. The late Katja Kladnik once sent me a diskful of 'crackme' virii. I tried to deadlist one of them; it infected me when I did, and dared me to try a less obvious approach. Mangled symbol table => buffer overflow in debugger => arbitrary code. Sneaky .
deadlist?
Re: I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
#173Re: I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
#174I don't know where you find candidates that can even approach this level of skill or desire to solve puzzles. Most people I interview struggle with a few lines C program coding.
You want experts? Try paying them like they're in the top 1% of their field and their work is worth at least 10 times if not 100 times the average salary to many employers. Make an effort to actually, you know, compete to get them.
The market for programmers is really inefficient for pay. Google has exploited that to the max and succeeded hiring a lot of very talented engineers at rates you pay for average tax accountants and attourneys. Just like the way they exploited Free software licensing by expempting themselves from the publish part by distributing access to the software not the software itself. That's their two best tricks right there.
Where they crossed the line massively is when they engaged in a criminal conspiracy with Apple et al to act in a cartel keep those wages down. This in addition to all the other legal ways they try pushing the market down when it really should be a sellers market. Andrew Moreton paid less than a football player of similar standing? How about 2 orders of magnitude less.
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#175Re: I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
#176Are there any good resources to learn what is necessary to solve this puzzle?
Re: I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
#177Crackmes (as they're known) can be kind of fun. The late Katja Kladnik once sent me a diskful of 'crackme' virii. I tried to deadlist one of them; it infected me when I did, and dared me to try a less obvious approach. Mangled symbol table => buffer overflow in debugger => arbitrary code. Sneaky .
deadlist?
Using a disassembler to get the "source" (deadlist) assembly code rather than stepping through with a debugger.
The portions of assembly code in the article are deadlists
This thread is bringing back a lot of memories :)
Re: I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
#178Crackmes (as they're known) can be kind of fun. The late Katja Kladnik once sent me a diskful of 'crackme' virii. I tried to deadlist one of them; it infected me when I did, and dared me to try a less obvious approach. Mangled symbol table => buffer overflow in debugger => arbitrary code. Sneaky .
Your comment prompted me to look up Katja Kladnik. I hadn't expected her to have passed in (edited) 1995.
http://spth.virii.lu/coderz1/lucky.html http://www.st-news.com/rex.htm#lucky
The e-zine this is from (http://spth.virii.lu/coderz1/ / http://vxheavens.com/vx.php?fid=177) was pretty interesting, too. Harks back to the time of small, independent online communities with dark webpage backgrounds.
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#179That, my friends, was a powerful blogpost. Raw, exuberant, and purposeful. I learned much.
Re: I was asked to crack a program in a job interview
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
8.8.8.8 Job please 8-)
I would say no! google's DNS address is not its IP address :-)
http://8.8.8.8 just times out. Why not point it to http://www.google.com or just serve a little javascript redirect or something?
Sloppy work Google.