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iOS 8 reviewed

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Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by macwarlock »

jayd16 wrote: post #115
encoderer wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet they continue to pack more power into a smaller package. So how do you explain it? Ram is cheap and small. Yes it uses power but not all that much and certainly it would be worth it for a more powerful device. The only logical explanation I can come to is... more RAM won't make a meaningful impact on the experience. More ram is the cure-all on a desktop but that's not apples-to-apples.

>And yet they continue to pack more power into a smaller package. Well, not this time =p

The A8 is fabbed using a new 20nm process, so part of the phone is more power in a smaller package.

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Post by dewey »

notlisted wrote: post #129
dewey wrote: post #113

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Is there a specific reason you are using the Gmail app instead of the OS provided mail app?

Not the OP, but I noticed the same and in my case the reason it's simple: I have all my email/attachments since 2004/2005 in gmail. I use full archive search way more often than I care to admit. I love how gmail works/syncs across all platforms (my iPad on iOS, two Android devices, PC laptop and Mac desktop) and doesn't limit me to the Mac/iOS platform.

Shouldn't it work the same way if you are just using IMAP? I never used the gmail app that's why I'm not familiar with it's inner workings.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by acheron »

dewey wrote: post #113
kuhnster wrote: post #111

Has anyone considered if the iPhone is a good choice of you are a Gmail user? I have noticed that the Gmail app load time, on the iPhone, is unusably slow but it is one of the apps I need to use daily.

Is there a specific reason you are using the Gmail app instead of the OS provided mail app?

For me it's because I've come to rely on the Gmail tabs (primary/social/promotions/updates), which the built-in Mail app just ignored. I could probably duplicate the effort with folders (though I use those also, in parallel to the tabs), but I just started using the Gmail app instead which handled it all fine.

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Post by r00fus »

archagon wrote: post #64
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Credit where credit is due, the lack of customisable keyboards was a major gripe of mine when people asked me why I'd never buy an iOS device. A Swype-like keyboard (I actually use Google Keyboard's Swype mode, even though I own Swype) is a "must have" on my phone and has been for over three and a half years (since Swype beta was available on the original Galaxy Note). While there are definitely thumb typists who can…

I'm a little surprised that Apple included custom keyboards. They've always been an "our way or the highway" company, and custom keyboards seem like a very geek-specific feature, even if they are better to type on. Not that I'm complaining! I can finally build a couple of new apps that I wasn't able to before. :) (If anyone is interested, I'm working on a clone of the existing Apple keyboard for use as a base for dev…

Someone designing an old-school iOS6 keyboard might find a lot of interest - some folks I know still haven't warmed to the iOS7+ keyboard.

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Post by shurcooL »

billyhoffman wrote: post #128
shurcooL wrote: post #126

"This update cannot be installed because it requires at least 6.9 GB of storage." That's over _half_ of the maximum available capacity on my 16 GB model. No wonder they're releasing 128 GB iPhones now.

That is simply the "slack" space needed to download iOS 8 and install it inline on your phone. The OS does not consume 6.9 GB of your 16 GB model. See the Ars Technica review

I know that (it still does consume more than iOS 7 did, but not 6.9 GB of course). But it's pretty inconvenient to have to delete more than half of the contents of my device for the update.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by takeda »

billyhoffman wrote: post #128
shurcooL wrote: post #126

"This update cannot be installed because it requires at least 6.9 GB of storage." That's over _half_ of the maximum available capacity on my 16 GB model. No wonder they're releasing 128 GB iPhones now.

That is simply the "slack" space needed to download iOS 8 and install it inline on your phone. The OS does not consume 6.9 GB of your 16 GB model. See the Ars Technica review

Well, 1.1GB for the file, and 5.5GB for the installation.

That's still huge.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by FiddlerClamp »

Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Credit where credit is due, the lack of customisable keyboards was a major gripe of mine when people asked me why I'd never buy an iOS device. A Swype-like keyboard (I actually use Google Keyboard's Swype mode, even though I own Swype) is a "must have" on my phone and has been for over three and a half years (since Swype beta was available on the original Galaxy Note). While there are definitely thumb typists who can…

TouchPal has a customizable, swipe keyboard for Windows 8: http://www.touchpal.com/downloads.html#win8

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by r00fus »

shurcooL wrote: post #126

"This update cannot be installed because it requires at least 6.9 GB of storage." That's over _half_ of the maximum available capacity on my 16 GB model. No wonder they're releasing 128 GB iPhones now.

Is this the same case if you upgrade using iTunes and USB connection?

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by foobarqux »

Igglyboo wrote: post #102
personZ wrote: post #26

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It's also worth noting that ABP is an absolute pig, on either Firefox or Chrome. I found that memory consumption and machine churn significantly dropped when I simply removed it and lived with ads. I've done no empirical measures on this, but am convinced that the cure is worse than the disease.

Try uBlock, it is much faster than ABP and uses way less resources. Or do it the good old fashion way and use a HOSTS file with the added advantage that ads will be blocked on your entire computer and not just your browser.

Does uBlock block Youtube ads? I tried its precursor and I remember it wasn't working on YT.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by mwfunk »

EpicEng wrote: post #120
enraged_camel wrote: post #116

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>>I think you missed the point. I like understanding the why as well, but it doesn't actually matter. Of course it matters. If you understand why, you can take steps to mitigate it or work around it. In this particular case, one workaround is to close unused programs and browser tabs every now and then to clear up memory so that the active tabs don't go through a forced-refresh. This is what I do on my 4S, and I have…

Right... or I could just use a phone which doesn't force me to micro-manage my memory usage. That's a workaround at best, not a solution. iOS has always been subpar in regards to multi-tasking.

Good luck with that.
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