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Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by drzaiusapelord » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:12 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #15

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #11

I really wish I could block ads somehow on my iPad Air. I'm pretty invested in the Apple ecosystem and use an LTE iPad Air almost every day on public transit, and the inability to block ads really makes mobile Safari a shitty experience. I mean, I'd never run (and I'm sure a lot of people here don't either) a desktop browser without some sort of ad blocking going on. That and being able to have two apps run side by s…

I'd never run (and I'm sure a lot of people here don't either) a desktop browser without some sort of ad blocking going on I'd actually be interested to see an HN poll on this. I do not run an ad blocker and frankly I find most complaints about ads online to be totally overblown. Years ago there was a hellish amount of pop-ups, pop-overs and pop-unders, but these days I really don't have many problems, and I'm happy…

I used to, but got tired of it. ABP just seems to make everything slower. Back in the day, an ad blocking hosts file worked like magic. No memory leaks from the browser or other problems. Ad loads failed at name resolution time and failed very quickly.

Also, to be fair to internet marketers, ads are much better than they used to be. The old 'punch the monkey style' ads are long gone outside of.. how do you say, questionable sites. Auto-playing videos are rare. Once in a blue moon I actually click on ads that are targeted to me. The system sometimes works.

Railing against ads just seems like a poseur-ish thing nowadays. I also feel especially bad blocking ads from sites I visit regularly. Its a dick-ish thing to do. It just seems better to keep open a dialogue on what we consider acceptable ads and what we consider unacceptable ads. Or help the site owner understand that they're better off with targeted ads or selling their ad space themselves, than joining some shady affiliate group with generic "This school teacher is making $900 a day" crap or, heaven forbid, video auto-play ads (which are pretty rare nowadays outside of news sites/youtube where the content is video but you're forced to sit through 35 seconds of ad before you can see it.)

A lot of annoying content isn't ads at all, its dhtml/css 'pop ups' asking you for your email address or facebook login or survey or whatever. ABP doesn't usually stop those either.

Loudly proclaiming you must use ABP is almost like saying, "Well, I visit tons of shady porn and torrent sites, where its more or less required." The non-shady web just seems like a better place than during the early 2000s when Flash ads ruled. YMMV of course.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by recalibrator » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:12 PM UTC

As a Blackberry user, I was just thinking today how I could never go back to the iPhone. Multitasking is much faster on the BB10 OS. No button mashing and drilling down menus - not like I remember with the iPhone.

Of course, the iPhone has it's strengths too, but I just want to get work done.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by serve_yay » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:15 PM UTC

wingerlang wrote: post #61

daxelrod wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's iPhone support cycle is such that there are significant downsides to getting a device from an older generation. For example: The iPhone 4S was released in October 2011. In October 2013, Apple released iOS 7. While iOS 7 supports the 4S, it increases RAM overhead to the point that switching from app A to app B kills app A the vast majority of the time. (This is terribly annoying when you're writing, you switch…

Really? iPhone 4S can't handle iOS7? I'm using an iPhone 4 on iOS7 without any problems whatsoever, and I'm a heavy user+developer.

I use a 4S with iOS 7. I can't wait to get the new phone, iOS is so slow now on my device. I guess there aren't any problems per se except that I pretty much hate using my phone.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by serve_yay » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:16 PM UTC

recalibrator wrote: post #122

As a Blackberry user, I was just thinking today how I could never go back to the iPhone. Multitasking is much faster on the BB10 OS. No button mashing and drilling down menus - not like I remember with the iPhone. Of course, the iPhone has it's strengths too, but I just want to get work done.

A Blackberry strikes me as more of an impediment to work these days, but then I guess that's why the market exists.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by ksec » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:16 PM UTC

This update requires 1.1GB download and 5.5 GB Free space to install!.

Did iOS7 also have similar requirement? I dont record that happened last time.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by shurcooL » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:16 PM UTC

"This update cannot be installed because it requires at least 6.9 GB of storage."

That's over _half_ of the maximum available capacity on my 16 GB model. No wonder they're releasing 128 GB iPhones now.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by tedunangst » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:18 PM UTC

drewblaisdell wrote: post #52

e1g wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Nitro engine is available only to the new WKWebView component, but that component has a bug [1] which prevents it from loading local files. This means that Cordova must continue using the old UIWebView, which means no Nitro boost at least until 8.1 or possibly later (however long it will take to fix that bug). [1] http://www.openradar.me/radar?id=5839348817723392

This bug, which continues to cripple HTML5 apps on the App Store but not ones accessed in Safari, seems almost too perfect to be unintentional.

I'm not sure what apple gains here. "Native" apps suck, so developers continue pushing web apps, which work just as well on android. Doesn't sound like the greatest lockin plan.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by billyhoffman » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:19 PM UTC

shurcooL wrote: post #126

"This update cannot be installed because it requires at least 6.9 GB of storage." That's over _half_ of the maximum available capacity on my 16 GB model. No wonder they're releasing 128 GB iPhones now.

That is simply the "slack" space needed to download iOS 8 and install it inline on your phone. The OS does not consume 6.9 GB of your 16 GB model. See the Ars Technica review

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by notlisted » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:20 PM UTC

dewey wrote: post #113

kuhnster wrote: post #111

Has anyone considered if the iPhone is a good choice of you are a Gmail user? I have noticed that the Gmail app load time, on the iPhone, is unusably slow but it is one of the apps I need to use daily.

Is there a specific reason you are using the Gmail app instead of the OS provided mail app?

Not the OP, but I noticed the same and in my case the reason it's simple: I have all my email/attachments since 2004/2005 in gmail. I use full archive search way more often than I care to admit.

I love how gmail works/syncs across all platforms (my iPad on iOS, two Android devices, PC laptop and Mac desktop) and doesn't limit me to the Mac/iOS platform.

Re: iOS 8 reviewed

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Post by cenhyperion » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:23 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #125

This update requires 1.1GB download and 5.5 GB Free space to install!. Did iOS7 also have similar requirement? I dont record that happened last time.

iOS did have a sizable requirement, although I forget how much space was required to do the install. I had many friends who had difficulty upgrading due to it.