The Cost of My Mother’s Cardiac Care in the United States and India • Hacker News Board

Re: The Cost of My Mother’s Cardiac Care in the United States and India

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Post by kristopolous » Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 6:22 AM UTC

nilsimsa wrote: post #9

kristopolous wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No way. There's thousands of drugs companies which are not global and do no business in the US. They operate in the black, at profit, like any other company. Collective bargaining rights won't put them out of business. That's so false.

Do you have a list of these thousand drug companies and the countries they are located in?

I've done lots of international travel. You get regional everything - regional car companies, hotel chains, restaurants, grocery stores, drug stores, etc. They contain regional products. I turn on the radio and hear regional music. I watch TV and see movies I've never heard of, stars faces I've never seen, and television shows I never knew existed. They have their only mobile carriers and apps and their own versions of things like yelp. A few things are international, but 95% isn't.

The idea that every single sector from industry to the food supply to entertainment to automotive to clothing and home appliances are all regional, and the drug companies are all actually, located in the US? Is that what you are claiming?

I'll come back and edit this ... but asking for a list is just silly. edited: Axon-Pharma, Steifel, Xenetic, Pharmsynthez, Laboratorios Vargas, Rusnano, CPhi (ok I have other things to do) ... Oh yeah, also, explain Cuba.

Anyway, have you traveled internationally?

Re: The Cost of My Mother’s Cardiac Care in the United States and India

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Post by nilsimsa » Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 4:18 PM UTC

kristopolous wrote: post #11

nilsimsa wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a list of these thousand drug companies and the countries they are located in?

I've done lots of international travel. You get regional everything - regional car companies, hotel chains, restaurants, grocery stores, drug stores, etc. They contain regional products. I turn on the radio and hear regional music. I watch TV and see movies I've never heard of, stars faces I've never seen, and television shows I never knew existed. They have their only mobile carriers and apps and their own versions…

Please read what I wrote. I never claimed anything about hotel chains, restaurants, etc being located in the US.

Re: The Cost of My Mother’s Cardiac Care in the United States and India

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Post by kristopolous » Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 4:31 PM UTC

nilsimsa wrote: post #12

kristopolous wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've done lots of international travel. You get regional everything - regional car companies, hotel chains, restaurants, grocery stores, drug stores, etc. They contain regional products. I turn on the radio and hear regional music. I watch TV and see movies I've never heard of, stars faces I've never seen, and television shows I never knew existed. They have their only mobile carriers and apps and their own versions…

Please read what I wrote. I never claimed anything about hotel chains, restaurants, etc being located in the US.

I have a list there near the end. it's not all just "blah blah blah". Do I need to honestly do all the legwork here for illustrating the plain and obvious?

This is kinda becoming a huge waste of my time, sorry.

Re: The Cost of My Mother’s Cardiac Care in the United States and India

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Post by billy8988 » Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 4:35 PM UTC

So, basically, what she says is, if you earn in US, healthcare is affordable in India. She seems to think $4,300 is cheap and affordable for all Indians. Only the upper middle class and the rich in India can spend that kind of money. (Only about 25% of Indians have health insurance).

Re: The Cost of My Mother’s Cardiac Care in the United States and India

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Post by nilsimsa » Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 4:38 PM UTC

kristopolous wrote: post #13

nilsimsa wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please read what I wrote. I never claimed anything about hotel chains, restaurants, etc being located in the US.

I have a list there near the end. it's not all just "blah blah blah". Do I need to honestly do all the legwork here for illustrating the plain and obvious? This is kinda becoming a huge waste of my time, sorry.

Okay let me give you a specific case. There is a drug for Hepatitis which is crazy expensive in US at $85K. They are licensing it for $2K in India. Even when you factor for cost of living differences, it is still less expensive in India. The drug companies don't care because they can make their profits in the US while making it cheaper elsewhere.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/business/international/mak...