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Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by gregors »

kb120 wrote: post #21
untog wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"a browser that isn't supported by Google" But still a browser that was created by Google and was bundled with the OS until 12 months ago, never mind how long it takes OEMs to roll it out. Android https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html?ut... Just because Google decided not to support it any more doesn't mean they shouldn't . Pointing out Firefox and Opera is all very well, but this is the default b…

Very few people explore other browsers? Alt browsers are often the first app that people download. Chrome is included in gapps.

I've played tech support to many people in my circle of friends and family who have no idea that alternate browsers even exist. The vast majority of users use what comes on the phone by default.

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by nkozyra »

AjithAntony wrote: post #86
hnha wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am running out of space because Play Store and Google Framework get bigger and bigger. It fills me with rage how Google actively makes my old phone less capable over time for no benefit to me.

Yeah. I was using a Nexus One for a long time until I had to prune so many apps due to space that it wasn't worth using. I got a new phone, HTC One S (I needed a t-mobile branded phone for wifi calling) with several gigs of system partition space, and now I have to play that game again. I recognize that there are a bunch of features now that I get to enjoy, but now I have to choose which ones I want to keep. When I s…

I have the latest Chrome for Android and it's 65MB for the app. Still large, but nowhere near 190MB.

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by gcb0 »

azernik wrote: post #74
gcb0 wrote: post #62

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> If you care about running only open source software, that's going to be very hard to do in the Android/Google-Play ecosystem. yet, the main advertisement google trhows for android is "open source" "community driven" yadda yadda

Main advertisement? I just went to android.com and developer.android.com; android.com advertises "Google built in" and lots of platforms, with a very small link to AOSP at the bottom of the page; developer.android.com has an AOSP link buried in its menus.

oh sorry. advertised.

we have already been baited and switched. but marketing takes a long time to dissipate...

here, i just clicked 2010 and clicked a random day for android.com

http://web.archive.org/web/20100112200506/http://www.android...

the 1st block is about the nexus one (market as open, but not on this page) and look! the second item on the page reads "Access to the entire platform source and information on how to contribute."

guess they forgot an asterix there saying that the "entire platform" means some of the platform.

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by gcb0 »

AjithAntony wrote: post #86
hnha wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am running out of space because Play Store and Google Framework get bigger and bigger. It fills me with rage how Google actively makes my old phone less capable over time for no benefit to me.

Yeah. I was using a Nexus One for a long time until I had to prune so many apps due to space that it wasn't worth using. I got a new phone, HTC One S (I needed a t-mobile branded phone for wifi calling) with several gigs of system partition space, and now I have to play that game again. I recognize that there are a bunch of features now that I get to enjoy, but now I have to choose which ones I want to keep. When I s…

used nexus one until couples months ago. even with all ext sd card hacks, i couldn't install firefox on a clean install.

app space is the only reason i generated more garbage in the world even though my current device only lacked the software to use the memory i had available.

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by blocke »

npizzolato wrote: post #88
Zigurd wrote: post #17

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Android One is meant to make it simple for lo-end OEMs to ship high quality implementations of up-to-date Android and keep up with new releases. It's hard to migrate a huge OEM ecosystem to that kind of program quickly.

And Nexus was meant to make it simpler for Google to ship updates directly to users, rather than having to go through OEMs. If Google can't keep their own phones up to date, do you expect Android One to be any different?

The only Nexus phones here that don't already have a fix available is the phone they announced as being end of life. 4.4 is not affected and is available for the Nexus 4, 5, both generations of 7 and I believe the 10.

Dear Galaxy Nexus users... It's time to let go.

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by gcb0 »

nkozyra wrote: post #92
AjithAntony wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I was using a Nexus One for a long time until I had to prune so many apps due to space that it wasn't worth using. I got a new phone, HTC One S (I needed a t-mobile branded phone for wifi calling) with several gigs of system partition space, and now I have to play that game again. I recognize that there are a bunch of features now that I get to enjoy, but now I have to choose which ones I want to keep. When I s…

I have the latest Chrome for Android and it's 65MB for the app. Still large, but nowhere near 190MB.

did you disable cache somehow?

open a bunch of ssl pages and see app data space explode. same happens with firefox

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by blocke »

autism_hurts wrote: post #51
javert wrote: post #37

I am a big Linux fan and appreciate the openness and control that I can get with Android as opposed to Apple and Microsoft products, but... My Android experience has been shit, and I'm really getting sick of it. Admittedly, much or even most of the problem for me is the OEMs screwing things up and not sending out updates.

You're not the only one. I'm sorry, but the Android issue has devolved into a holy war but... .. support is terrible on the Android side. Really terrible.

People need to stop buying terrible phones. Consumers keep rewarding companies who don't keep up with their promises and thus no one ends up giving a crap.

In my opinion if you're not going to buy a Nexus device or a Moto E/G/X then you might as well buy Apple. The Android One program will hopefully add more to that.

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by [deleted] »

AjithAntony wrote: post #86
hnha wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am running out of space because Play Store and Google Framework get bigger and bigger. It fills me with rage how Google actively makes my old phone less capable over time for no benefit to me.

Yeah. I was using a Nexus One for a long time until I had to prune so many apps due to space that it wasn't worth using. I got a new phone, HTC One S (I needed a t-mobile branded phone for wifi calling) with several gigs of system partition space, and now I have to play that game again. I recognize that there are a bunch of features now that I get to enjoy, but now I have to choose which ones I want to keep. When I s…

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Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by gcb0 »

u124556 wrote: post #47
kb120 wrote: post #23

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Only 20% of mobile web traffic comes from ASOP browser.

Back in my times browsers would kill for a 20% market share...

both are chrome. just different versions.

google ridicules microsoft with IE6, and the first offline platform they release they made the exact same mistake!

bundle a integrated browser just so the use cant uninstall... and decide to not patch it.

Re: Major Android Bug Is a Privacy Disaster (CVE-2014-6041)

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Post by jsmthrowaway »

magicalist wrote: post #84
worklogin wrote: post #28

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That's 1 in 5 mobile users! How can you argue that 20% is small?

> How can you argue that 20% is small? where did they argue that? They were just correcting the 90% claim above.

"90% of phones" and "20% of Web traffic" are two different claims; there is no correction.
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