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Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by elwell »

ProAm wrote: post #230
jokoon wrote: post #222

He sounds depressed and frustrated. All I see is bad emotions in all that. With all the money he has, he could at least try to share or expand his passion in some way. It's true that he's lucky, you sense the modesty, that he doesn't want to be perceived as talented. But even if that's true, he could at least try a little bit more. I mean he seems content with his work, but if I had such fame, at least I'd try to use…

It's his life he can do what he wants.

That's obvious, but it's often helpful to hear what other people think you should do with your life. That's true humility, and it can get you out of depression. Not saying I necessarily agree with GP though.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by anigbrowl »

clarkevans wrote: post #308
dasil003 wrote: post #300

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I don't think he wants sympathy, that's not how I read this at all. I think he wants freedom, and he is not asking for it but simply stating for the record how he is going about this. One of the thing's I admire about Notch's communication is that it always comes off as sincere and matter of fact. I think that is admirable in the face of the reality one faces in becoming internet-famous. The internet has a big proble…

Perhaps it's that Notch invited the entitlement with an explicit promise ? http://web.archive.org/web/20100301103851/http://www.minecra... Included there is a dedication to (eventually) make the work open-source or public domain, and to contribute to it so long as people are paying. Those promises drove MindCraft praise, good will, and adoption. Do you think asking someone to keep these promises, the ones that drove…

I don't see that he, personally, has to contribute free expansions, it's enough if Mojang does. A lot of people seem to be assuming that purchase by MS means the end of mods and the start of paid expansion packs. Is there definite evidence for this claim, or is it just speculation?

As for releasing it as open source, I went to your link and it says 'Once sales start dying and a minimum time has passed, I will release the game source code as some kind of open source.' How do you know he has gone back on this promise, as I have not seen any statement to the contrary so far?

Your claims of entitlement seem to rest on unproven assumptions. Is there some evidence out there you could link to, for those of us who don't follow the company/product closely?

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by chris_mahan »

seanflyon wrote: post #285
ido wrote: post #240

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It's quite hard getting over the interface these days. Surprisingly enough Warcraft 1 is still very playable.

I recommend Dune2000, it has a similar feel to Dune2 and a much more modern interface.

Is it available on Steam? Is Dune2 available on Steam?

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by AndyKelley »

willvarfar wrote: post #102

For the interested, Notch didn't enter the current Ludum Dare but thousands of mortal coders did, and they'd love you to go play their games! http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/

That includes me! http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-30/?action=preview...

It's a multiplayer html5 game, so drag a friend into it with you :-)

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Post by mikeash »

reledi wrote: post #277
mikeash wrote: post #217

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I get the impression that Notch may not actually be all that talented. I mean, he's probably more so than the average Joe, but not super exceptionally talented. It seems like he got lucky, and was good enough to leverage his success into more success and was good enough of a businessman to profit handsomely from the whole thing, but that's about it. I understand that he hasn't done anything on Minecraft in quite a wh…

What exactly makes you think he's not talented? Because I on the other hand think he's extremely talented. That's the opinion I have based on occasionally watching his streams and reading his writings, not even considering the huge success that Minecraft is.

The fact that he hasn't followed up Minecraft with anything noteworthy despite having plenty of time and way more than enough money, and apparently wanting to build something new and successful with 0x10c.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by dasil003 »

mikeash wrote: post #313
dasil003 wrote: post #307

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And yet you casually quantify talent as being about making a fun game. There are so many flaws in this line of thinking. At the top is the idea that if you make a game fun enough it will take off like Minecraft, but virality is not simply a product of fun, there are so many intangibles that go into blockbuster successes, and the people who get really good at wrangling those elements and distilling out a formula are n…

I honestly have no idea what your problem is with my comment anymore. Are you unhappy that I didn't mention the other things needed for success under "talent"?

What do you mean "anymore"? I only responded once.

My problem is simple: you define talent as being "successful" by your opening sentence. From the beginning you question his talent because you haven't seen more successes from him. That's what I'm taking issue with.

Of course I don't want you to define other things needed for success, that's precisely the problem. Success is not a barometer for success, more like a very very loose correlation.

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Post by seanflyon »

nightski wrote: post #287
yupmetoo wrote: post #265

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I know this is outside the topic, but to critique your analogy - you could spend a lifetime trying to make a better battery, and share the knowledge of 1000 ways to not make a better battery, which is useful in and of itself.

I wasn't trying to imply such a pursuit wouldn't be useful, rather that you should only do it if you find it individually fulfilling and not solely because it might benefit humanity as a whole (because it might not, no one can predict these things). But of course this is all just a personal opinion and highly subjective.

While we cannot predict the future with perfect certainty statements like: "A better battery will benefit humanity" are safe bets. There are many things that we know with a high degree a certainty will benefit humanity.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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Post by seanflyon »

theflubba wrote: post #225

Notch is an idiot. He should just ignore what people say on the internet, stop taking things so personally, and work on a new idea. There's nothing stopping him but himself.

> stop taking things so personally, and work on a new idea. There's nothing stopping him but himself.

There is nothing stopping him at all; that is exactly what he is doing.

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