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I'm Leaving Mojang

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Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#221

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> What's funny (for some definitions of fun), we will actually need to do that - given how our current economy pushes automation to replace humans everywhere, we can either accept that people should be allowed to live and thrive without having to earn for the living, or we'll see a massive increase of poverty. Most likely, such a realization will occur, if at all, only after (1) we do see massive increase in poverty,…

"The future is already here — it's just not very evenly distributed." -- William Gibson This software/robotics/automation transition (a second "industrial revolution" if you want to call it that) is going to be terribly painful, but it need not be. We just need to reflect on what our values are as people.

> We just need to reflect on what our values are as people.

Maybe, but this seems to assume that there aren't a sufficiently large quantity of the already well off whose "values as people" aren't centered around protecting their own short-term relative position in society. I think the history of humanity and what it takes to get change that distributes some of the benefits of progress rather than concentrating in the already-best-off suggest that this assumption may be unjustified.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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He sounds depressed and frustrated. All I see is bad emotions in all that.

With all the money he has, he could at least try to share or expand his passion in some way.

It's true that he's lucky, you sense the modesty, that he doesn't want to be perceived as talented.

But even if that's true, he could at least try a little bit more. I mean he seems content with his work, but if I had such fame, at least I'd try to use it and approach game companies to negotiate deals, and share his vision of gaming.

Hasn't he ever tried to lead some team and get in touch with programmers he likes to do something ? Can't individuals like him hire a manager to do the job and project his vision into something ? I mean aren't there decent people able to know when there's potential, and solve the relational stuff ?

I mean you can't be modest like that all the time. at some point it's grumpiness, not modesty.

I wish there were businessmen able to notice those modest, hard working loners and just get small companies working with them. Not even companies, just small teams and projects. Some coaching. I wonder what's Carmack's story. I'd love to hear about the work stories of those guys, or maybe hear them talk about work politics. Of course they don't want to, because they might be made fun of, but meh.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#223

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While the ski resort was closing, the businessman created a simple video game called Minecraft which he later sold for $2.5 billion. Now he has fuck you money and doesn't give a shit what happens to the economy.

Until the economy collapses and he realizes that money is just an abstract concept that works as long as the economy exists. He dies from hunger trying to fertilize his field with banknotes and get bees to offer him honey in exchange for an electronic cash transfer.

1,000 years in the future, an advanced alien civilization digs up the remains of humanity, decodes all of our DNA, figures out all of our interactions, and decides to recompose the businessman and bring him back to life after discovering he was the creator of Minecraft.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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post #115

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And then the fisherman got a horrible toothache and there was nothing he could do about it. A few years later, overfishing led to near-depletion of the local supply, and new restrictions were implemented on fishing licenses. The fisherman was unable to afford one, and yet he had no other means of supporting his family. By the end of the decade his wife and children were begging on the street. Meanwhile, the businessm…

This is a fearful way to look at things, especially given the context. Mojang is being sold for 2.5 billion dollars. In reality, Minecraft is being sold for 2.5 billion dollars, because I'm sure Microsoft doesn't give a rat's ass about Scrolls or Cobalt. Notch founded Mojang, and wrote Minecraft. Notch wants to do the things he wants to do. Of that 2.5 billion dollars, I'm sure he's going to be getting a reasonable p…

I thought the story was directed to the general readership, in which case I find it a naive oversimplification of wealth/labor and raldi's addendum to it realistic. If it applied specifically to notch, his financial freedom would be very obvious to a passing businessmen; ie, he'd be ordering burgers from the local joint to feed himself, not slaughtering cattle for meat (unless he enjoys that part).

Only Hollywood seems to think we all work like rats without considering why. If I had all my student loans, car, house, retirement, recreational allowance provided for, I might never touch a keyboard again.

Point being "striving for excess without considering your needs" is more concise and accurate than any interpretation of this "parable".

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#225
Notch is an idiot. He should just ignore what people say on the internet, stop taking things so personally, and work on a new idea. There's nothing stopping him but himself.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#226

The other day there was a post about some Doom map viewer Notch had written in Dart. One of the top comments said something along the lines of "This is why we all need to be rich, so we can work on stuff like this." I thought the comment was so sad because honestly, almost no one is going to benefit from a mostly broken Doom map viewer in Dart that's abandoned after a few days. Same with the numerous games he's start…

I don't think it's sad at all. It's great that Notch is doing what makes him happy. And honestly, I think he's much more likely to continue to do things that benefit the world if he follows this intuition rather than feeling duty bound to build things that are as big and impactful as possible.

Honestly I think his is more of an artistic than entrepreneurial mindset. How many artists set out to "change the world" with their art? Not many. But still many do.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#228
This may be a weird reference, but what comes to mind is John Frusciante leaving Red Hot Chili Peppers at the height of their fame. He quit in the middle of the tour after Blood Sugar Sex Magik, after they became unexpectedly huge.

He just wanted to make music and play in small clubs. And he went back to playing guitar by himself and making solo albums. (Also heroin use, but that's a different story).

And he rejoined in '98 or so, had 3 huge hit records, and then left again a few years ago. He made a few more solo albums and experimented with electronic music.

Some people are not cut out for fame. The intrinsic joy of what they do is even more powerful than fame.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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post #228

This may be a weird reference, but what comes to mind is John Frusciante leaving Red Hot Chili Peppers at the height of their fame. He quit in the middle of the tour after Blood Sugar Sex Magik, after they became unexpectedly huge. He just wanted to make music and play in small clubs. And he went back to playing guitar by himself and making solo albums. (Also heroin use, but that's a different story). And he rejoined…

Really enjoyed his work with ataxia

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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post #222

He sounds depressed and frustrated. All I see is bad emotions in all that. With all the money he has, he could at least try to share or expand his passion in some way. It's true that he's lucky, you sense the modesty, that he doesn't want to be perceived as talented. But even if that's true, he could at least try a little bit more. I mean he seems content with his work, but if I had such fame, at least I'd try to use…

It's his life he can do what he wants.
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