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I'm Leaving Mojang

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Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#181
I love ya notch, you inspired me. Games don't have to have a story, great graphics, or even a point. They have to be fun. After years of being a gamer, Minecraft is the only game I come back to.

I will buy anything you have for sale.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#182

> I don’t see myself as a real game developer. I make games because it’s fun, and because I love games and I love to program, but I don’t make games with the intention of them becoming huge hits, and I don’t try to change the world. I think that's the essence of being a real game developer. It's sad that Notch feels this way, I think the majority of old school games guys and girls were just like that. Since it's beco…

Preposterous. If it wasn't about the money, could have gone open-source at any time with the same effect/relief. Of course its about the $2B

If I was already super rich and selling my company I'd still prefer making 10-100 if my peers rich, rather than explain to them why they have to keep their day jobs because I'm convinced it's for a good cause.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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> I would like to see people like Notch (creative, thoughtful people) having a say in what the future holds. I don't. I have absolutely nothing against Notch, in fact I have the deepest respect for the guy as a hacker and as a person with, clearly, a lot of personal integrity. However he says quite clearly himself he's just interested in tinkering. Minecraft wasn't a deeply though out, perfectly executed, planned exe…

> It was an entirely accidental result of pretty much randomly hacking ideas together. He had absolutely no idea what the future held for Minecraft when he produced it. That the game became a financial success is indeed somewhat accidental. But that the game was fun was certainly not. Since Notch was "just tinkering", he optimized for a fun and interesting game, not for a profitable game. I think this is the distinct…

> That the game became a financial success is indeed somewhat accidental. But that the game was fun was certainly not

Yeah, it's amazing to me how many people who even play Minecraft and enjoy it don't understand this. The default state for games is not fun, and it's an incredibly deliberate (and usually difficult) process to get them there.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

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I never considered Bruce Wayne much of a tinkerer. More like Tony Stark playing with Legos.

Tony Stark? You mean Elon Musk, right?

Or Steve Jobs.

There was a school of thought that the only reason that Steve Jobs liked being CEO of Apple was so that he could build the products he wanted, how he wanted, without anyone else telling him what he could and couldn't do. He basically created a role where he was a Product Manager with near unlimited resources who didn't have to answer to anyone else.

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#185

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Well, there are a lot of dicks online, but I think twitter rage-storms or whatever seem to affect some people a lot more deeply than others.

The people who deal with it best I think are sort of the aloof types. They may not even read their own Twitter feed, delegating it to a social-media staffer. Notch has the problem that he uses it as a personal account and is on it regularly, so he reads comments @directed at him, tries to reply to them, etc. He also has a public email address that he reads, and it sounds like people send weird/angry emails to that, t…

I think he's clearly a nice guy and cares deeply about what he has created and the people that use it.

However, I think a saying I heard today summed it up quite well: "A few boos can drown out a lot of cheers."

With a sense of perspective as to what he has achieved, the people that complain must be a very small minority.

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I think the analogy to Wozniak is great. I remember an article some months ago in which he basically said the same: He wants to tinker and hack. I remember watching some parts of notch's livestreams. I loved the enthusiasm he had. He was a bit like a young boy, trying things, throwing some away, creating games. I'm happy for his decision.

It's unfortunate that all our greed and crazy fandom keep scaring the great minds away from continuing to push us all forward.

I think it's less the greed and crazy fandom and more a new generation of people that feel they are entitled to everything and anything they want and if they don't get it, start an online witch hunt.

There are numerous examples of this in the past 6 months and in Notch's case, it happened with EULA and 3rd party server support.

A community that supports this sort of behavior wouldn't have my support either. I don't blame him.

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#187

I love ya notch, you inspired me. Games don't have to have a story, great graphics, or even a point. They have to be fun. After years of being a gamer, Minecraft is the only game I come back to. I will buy anything you have for sale.

Minecraft's my favorite game, and my son's. We also both like Dune2. He's 9. (I'm not :)

Re: I'm Leaving Mojang

#188

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> I think that's the essence of being a real game developer. I think that's the eseence of being a real X, X = insert whatever you claim to be in. In my mind I divide companies (and professionals) by whether their occupation is an instrumental or terminal goal. As an example, advancing rocketry and electrifying transport to advance humanity is a terminal goal for Elon Musk. I.e he cares about that and works on Tesla…

I'm reminded of the _Nicomachean Ethics_, which, if I recall accurately, begins with an analysis of what you're calling instrumental activities vs terminal, in order to show that the end goal of any activity is happiness, which is not instrumental for any other purpose.

I'm not trying to go too deep into philosophy with this concept. I guess one could present a convincing argument that there are no real terminal goals, or that the real terminal goal is happiness, or something like that.

From the practical perspective though, people seem to have a limited capability for introspection. Maybe for Musk solving the big problems/retiring on Mars is only instrumental to feeling righteous, which is only instrumental to being happy, etc. but humans don't usually introspect that deep. The recursion stops somewhere around the moment where you feel you care about something for the sake of that something. That's what I meant by terminal goals here.

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So, no one had to obey bosses' commands in previous times?

Sure they did. So what? Just because we always had to do something, doesn't mean we should continue to do so. We always had to die from random stupid illnesses until one guy stumbled over penicillin and the other one figured out that it might be a good idea to wash hands before performing surgery. The whole concept of progress of mankind is the idea that we should strive to get rid of stupid shit that caused harm, mi…

You are saying that we should not continue doing what we do not like, and then you proceed to say that "one guy" Alexander Fleming "stumbled over" penicillin. Are you planning to stumble upon a way to relieve people from the need to obey the bosses or you expect someone else to do it?

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>It's like Bruce Wayne deciding to spend the rest of his life playing with legos. I like this image. Bruce Wayne's character in batman is always thinking big. He tries to push things in the direction he thinks is right. The idea that someone would have all the power and decide to play with toys makes me worry about the rest of us. I would like to see people like Notch (creative, thoughtful people) having a say in wha…

Bruce Wayne's character in batman is always thinking big. He tries to push things in the direction he thinks is right. No, Bruce Wayne is incredibly myopic. If you have billions of dollars and you want to fight crime, the last thing you should be doing is developing fancy equipment so that you can personally go after criminals one by one. If Bruce Wayne truly wanted to use his money to reduce crime, he would be donat…

Batman's superpower is literally class inequality and money.
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