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Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by edwinyzh »

yusw wrote: post #36
teleclimber wrote: post #21

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I am also working on something a bit like this. Sounds like a trend is starting... I also like OP's work, it's far nicer than Sir Trevor. ( http://madebymany.github.io/sir-trevor-js/ ) Some things I notice as well in OP's implementation: - when selecting text you can only select a small subset of the content (if you start your selection in a paragraph, you can only select within that paragraph). This is going to driv…

Hi, sorry would you please let me know what you're referring with "OP's implementation"? Perhaps you have url. Or is it related with the ContentBuilder.js?

He means your implementation.

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by goldfeld »

bratsche wrote: post #37
pluma wrote: post #10

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Note: "open source" in this case means AGPL.

Not sure what the "quotes" are for. AGPL is open source.

I think open source has come to mean for many people /no strings-attached/, as in "I can use it in my startup however I care." AGPL is not just open source but closer to a free software ideal, where proprietary services can't just ride on top of a common good library and not provide the source.

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by edwinyzh »

Looks great! Several questions. 1 - Since you do not provide trial, do you have documents? I at least need to have a feel on how to integrate it into my program.

2 - How is the extensibility and flexibility? Since I'm thinking of desktop program integration, this is a key to me.

3 - What's the number of lines in this library?

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by yusw »

edwinyzh wrote: post #43

Looks great! Several questions. 1 - Since you do not provide trial, do you have documents? I at least need to have a feel on how to integrate it into my program. 2 - How is the extensibility and flexibility? Since I'm thinking of desktop program integration, this is a key to me. 3 - What's the number of lines in this library?

1&2. The plugin doesn't have many options to configure. The usage: http://innovastudio.com/content-builder.aspx (I can send the readme file if you'd like, just email builder@innovastudio.com). The package contains several examples (explained in the readme file). In the near future we plan to include option to extend with custom image select. 3. around 2500 lines Thanks

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by dingdingdang »

pacomerh wrote: post #20
notastartup wrote: post #11

Pretty amazing that even with Angularjs, Ember.js, Backbone.js and all these MVC in your browser frameworks, jQuery is the easiest to pick up and use.

You can't compare jQuery to an MV* framework, they have different purposes. jQuery is meant for easier DOM manipulation (ideal for these kind of projects). MV* frameworks are for giving your JS more structure and create applications.

This is very important point, I use jQuery and structure my code into quite specific MC(V) pattern (not yet using a second library for this) - jQuery itself is largely structure agnostic.

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by phirschybar »

yusw wrote: post #33
phirschybar wrote: post #30

This is really impressive. Well done. Having build a number of CMSes I have a few, hopefully constructive, criticisms: 1) I understand why you are utilizing a lot of inline styles in your rendered HTML output. However, this will become a huge problem if the HTML becomes stored in a database and the site's front-end CSS needs to change. 2) Outputting HTML in general is tough to work with in a CMS type environment. It…

Hi Phirschybar, Thank you for your feedback! 1) There may be some condition that generates unwanted inline style. Recently we fixed this issue which happens on certain browser. 2) Yes, that would be great. 3) There is already an option to upload/save the embedded images in a specified path on the server.

@yusw is there any way to see more documentation, for example, on how the image uploading is handled? Also, is there a way (twitter?) where we can get updates on the progress of this project? I am fairly certain we will want to license it for a current project. Perfect for our needs.

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by yusw »

phirschybar wrote: post #47
yusw wrote: post #33

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Hi Phirschybar, Thank you for your feedback! 1) There may be some condition that generates unwanted inline style. Recently we fixed this issue which happens on certain browser. 2) Yes, that would be great. 3) There is already an option to upload/save the embedded images in a specified path on the server.

@yusw is there any way to see more documentation, for example, on how the image uploading is handled? Also, is there a way (twitter?) where we can get updates on the progress of this project? I am fairly certain we will want to license it for a current project. Perfect for our needs.

Hi Phirschybar, yes please email me at builder@innovastudio.com. I will send further info. Thanks

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by pluma »

bratsche wrote: post #37
pluma wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note: "open source" in this case means AGPL.

Not sure what the "quotes" are for. AGPL is open source.

I didn't mean to imply anything else. I guess italics would have been less ambiguous.

AGPL is open source in the "free software" sense. Many people wrongly assume "open source" means "permissively licensed", which of course isn't accurate.

As AGPL is probably as restrictive as it gets it might catch those people by surprise. Unless you're working with GPL software exclusively, "open source" as a qualifier does not convey much practical information.

I find it more helpful to point out the actual license than to just state whether something is open source or closed source, unless we're in a context where the exact license is irrelevant (e.g. when we're only interested whether something is GPL-compatible or not).

Re: Show HN: ContentBuilder.js – JQuery Plugin to Write Anything Beautifully

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Post by belorn »

pluma wrote: post #49
bratsche wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what the "quotes" are for. AGPL is open source.

I didn't mean to imply anything else. I guess italics would have been less ambiguous. AGPL is open source in the "free software" sense. Many people wrongly assume "open source" means "permissively licensed", which of course isn't accurate. As AGPL is probably as restrictive as it gets it might catch those people by surprise. Unless you're working with GPL software exclusively, "open source" as a qualifier does not co…

Anyone who want to take software that someone else made and slap their own license on it has to be careful. It can be "open source", "free software", "free ware", "abandon ware", "stuff they downloaded from the Internet", or "stuff they bought". If they want to add their own set of restrictions onto the software, reading and understanding the license is the only way prevent being sued for copyright infringement.

Everyone else who do not want to add their own restrictions to the software has a much easier time.

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