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LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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As a New Zealander, I have not felt more disgusted by a Prime Minister since Muldoon. This isn't news to those of us in the tech sector with experience in NZ - but it's amazing for international hero's such as Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden and Assange speak out so publicly about the grease-bag that is John Key and his party. Apologies for the loaded wording, I feel very passionately about the freedom of New Zealand.

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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One of these three things is not like the others.

Politics make strange bedfellows. That said, I think that ideologically, all of these men are absolutely on the same page... of persons who will never in their lifetimes be invited to any White House gala. And good for them.

> That said, I think that ideologically, all of these men are absolutely on the same page...

I don't think even they would agree to that.

KDC is a serial criminal/fraudster with a ton of convictions to his name that will pursue a buck no matter what he has to do for it.

Glenn Greenwald is a journalist who will not be pushed or pressured into behaving as governments believe he should, who has taught a superb lesson in ethics to a large swath of the journalistic profession. He's this generations Woodward or Bernstein, take your pick.

Julian Assange is a person that I respect on a professional level for what he's done with WikiLeaks but who quite probably has some flaws and possibly something to answer for in his private life.

They couldn't be more different.

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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post #32

As a New Zealander, I have not felt more disgusted by a Prime Minister since Muldoon. This isn't news to those of us in the tech sector with experience in NZ - but it's amazing for international hero's such as Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden and Assange speak out so publicly about the grease-bag that is John Key and his party. Apologies for the loaded wording, I feel very passionately about the freedom of New Zealand…

Fellow NZ citizen. Could not agree more. I hope we will have more engagement of the citizenry this election.

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe with less rape? I'd settle for that at this point.

KDC or Glenn Greenwald raped anybody? Has Assange been convicted of rape? Has a charge even been brought?

An arrest warrant was issued and the guy fled to escape being charged. And then he ran again. So saying he hasn't been convicted or charged is a pretty high-chutzpah defense.

Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ

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Will any of this really make any difference? I feel that, in the long run, it won't. Edit: And to further clarify my question (since I'm being down-voted for a very legitimate question)... I know a lot of smart people and none of them (as in 0 of them) seem to take any notice to these conversations. There is a lot of apathy towards mass surveillance. Sure, the conversation comes up a lot on HN but HN is not a very go…

I upvoted you because I believe this is a very valid question. In the really long term, none of it will make a difference. In the short term it will probably also not make a difference but I have some hope that there will be a major review of what we've done wrong historically at some point and then maybe this will carry some weight.

For sure there is plenty that - when looked at through the lens of history - will come back to haunt our future collective selves and that we will feel needs to be dealt with if we are to progress as humanity.

On that scale by the way (in my opinion) these are very minor issues.

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