Ironically it's not available in Germany, because of "right issues"[1]. [1] screenshot : http://imgur.com/JFTYK5u
LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
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#12Will any of this really make any difference? I feel that, in the long run, it won't. Edit: And to further clarify my question (since I'm being down-voted for a very legitimate question)... I know a lot of smart people and none of them (as in 0 of them) seem to take any notice to these conversations. There is a lot of apathy towards mass surveillance. Sure, the conversation comes up a lot on HN but HN is not a very go…
I think a large amount of people don't understand the full extent more than intellectually. They are aware that it is happening but it doesn't have real context. They aren't aware that their position is tracked or logged, their porn habits monitored and that their is a subset of the population that has become wildly powerful and extremely clandestine. However, people are taking note. People like Ladar Levinson and others. They are combatting this with technology. This is also happening live in NZ right before an election, people will have more information to make that decision. So things are changing at their usual pace: slowly. Hopefully for the better.
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#13Will any of this really make any difference? I feel that, in the long run, it won't. Edit: And to further clarify my question (since I'm being down-voted for a very legitimate question)... I know a lot of smart people and none of them (as in 0 of them) seem to take any notice to these conversations. There is a lot of apathy towards mass surveillance. Sure, the conversation comes up a lot on HN but HN is not a very go…
It won't if you push an attitude like that.
Re: LIVE NOW: Glenn Greenwald, Assange, and Kim Dot Com in NZ
#14Link to the article Snowden authored earlier today about the subject : https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/snowden-new-ze... EDIT: The segment has ended. You can view the video by skipping to 21:54 at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbps1EwAW-0#t=427
As far as I know, this is the first time Snowden is directly penning an article. He even has a staff page [1] now on The Intercept. This is interesting because to me because "At the NSA I routinely came across the communications of New Zealanders in my work" is much more impactful than "Snowden stated that he routinely came across the communications of New Zealanders in his work as an NSA Analyst".
[1]: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/staff/edward-snowden/
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#16One of these three things is not like the others.
Politics make strange bedfellows. That said, I think that ideologically, all of these men are absolutely on the same page...
of persons who will never in their lifetimes be invited to any White House gala. And good for them.
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#17We have got to get a halfway respectable public face for this movement. These are Bond villains.
There is an argument though, that this issue is so deeply ingrained that we need a rather rebellious approach to actually change anything...
What's more appropriate for a rebellious movement than rebellious leaders?
Just a thought...
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#18We have got to get a halfway respectable public face for this movement. These are Bond villains.
Of course, the guy who sacrificed his life facing life in a shit hole if get caught, the guy who brought that news to you, the guy who let you learn about what your government is up to overseas.
Textbook bond villains, indeed.
It is astonishing how easy it is to throw mud at people and get up voted for it.
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#19We have got to get a halfway respectable public face for this movement. These are Bond villains.
There is an argument though, that this issue is so deeply ingrained that we need a rather rebellious approach to actually change anything... What's more appropriate for a rebellious movement than rebellious leaders? Just a thought...
Maybe with less rape? I'd settle for that at this point.
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#20We have got to get a halfway respectable public face for this movement. These are Bond villains.
Such trolling is not remotely funny.