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Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by ams6110 »

lotsofmangos wrote: post #34
bigiain wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's "bizarre" at all - getting paid _fundamentally_ changes things. Although the "ban commercial use completely" approach is a pretty big hammer to use - as a hobbyist RC pilot who's flown with a camera aboard for some time ( http://bigiain.com/Mini-Swift-RC-plane ) I've had _many_ requests to take photos/video for other people, many of whom have offered money for it, and almost _all_ of which would re…

If you will drop your own safety standards for money, that isn't a problem with drones.

Where did he say he would? He said getting paid changes things for many people, and many people will take stupid risks either with their own safety or that of others if there is a paycheck in it. And I don't think one can reasonably say that isn't true.

Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by ams6110 »

baddox wrote: post #16
bigiain wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's "bizarre" at all - getting paid _fundamentally_ changes things. Although the "ban commercial use completely" approach is a pretty big hammer to use - as a hobbyist RC pilot who's flown with a camera aboard for some time ( http://bigiain.com/Mini-Swift-RC-plane ) I've had _many_ requests to take photos/video for other people, many of whom have offered money for it, and almost _all_ of which would re…

> many of whom have offered money for it, and almost _all_ of which would require me to make safety compromises that I probably wouldn't choose to make "just doing it for kicks". And because of that, you're advocating that all commercial drone usage be prohibited? To me, that doesn't follow.

He didn't advocate that at all.

Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by nadiaks »

nadiaks wrote: post #26
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The articles may overlap a bit but they're certainly quite different. The submitted article has a lot more content than the one you linked and most of it deals with the state of drone usage in the US rather than the startups in Canada which are using drones. Also, Resson Aerospace is definitely mentioned in both articles. Quentin Casey wrote a good article. So did this guy.

Not disputing the content of the articles, but rather the fact that this author quotes and uses direct quotes from another with referencing the proper parties.

sorry *without

Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by markdown »

spacefight wrote: post #29
markdown wrote: post #24

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I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. This is an american photographer/videographer coming to Fiji for a project (work), who then ignores local law by flying his quadcopter over a moving aircraft on a runway. He finishes his project after a few days, returns to his home country, and puts his video online. If seen by civil aviation authorities in Fiji, it could lead to tighter regulations for local hobbyist…

Are you familiar with the local law in Fiji?

Yes.

- Every UAV must be registered with (licensed by) the civil aviation authority

- Cannot operate within six kilometres of an international aerodrome and within three kilometres of a domestic airport

Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by markdown »

unclebunkers wrote: post #35
markdown wrote: post #6

Request: Please don't come and ruin it for the rest of us, like this irresponsible american drone operator potentially did (thankfully there have been no repercussions yet as the authorities haven't seen it). See the first few seconds of this video: http://vimeo.com/99295619 Flying anywhere near aerodromes is illegal just about everywhere.

Do you have more info handy? My immeadiate thought was it was a Fiji promotional video, and approved of. I'd love to read the intrigue on it.

No intrigue.

It's a great video. Beautifully shot. I love it.

I'm just annoyed that the guy who made it broke the law in doing so.

The video is online, so if it ever comes to the attention of the Fiji Civil Aviation Authority, they could come down hard on local (fijian) UAV operators and hobbyists.

Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by spacefight »

markdown wrote: post #44
spacefight wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you familiar with the local law in Fiji?

Yes. - Every UAV must be registered with (licensed by) the civil aviation authority - Cannot operate within six kilometres of an international aerodrome and within three kilometres of a domestic airport

Thank you.

Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by dragonwriter »

baddox wrote: post #40
dragonwriter wrote: post #36

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> Scale is completely separate from the legal ban of commercial drone operations. Its actually not. While the limit on commercial application doesn't directly limit scale, there is a very big difference in the overall expected scale when something can only be done for personal enjoyment vs. when it can be both done for that and for commercial purposes. One can argue that prohibiting commercial use isn't the most desi…

> there is a very big difference in the overall expected scale when something can only be done for personal enjoyment vs. when it can be both done for that and for commercial purposes. That only serves as an argument for regulating large scale drone operations (commercial or not). It doesn't work as an argument for prohibiting all commercial drone operations regardless of scale.

Its not about the scale of an individual drone operation, its about the aggregate scale of all drone operations when commercial operations are allowed vs. when they are not.

Re: Drone-based businesses soar in Canada, as FAA grounds US entrepreneurs

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Post by unclebunkers »

markdown wrote: post #45
unclebunkers wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have more info handy? My immeadiate thought was it was a Fiji promotional video, and approved of. I'd love to read the intrigue on it.

No intrigue. It's a great video. Beautifully shot. I love it. I'm just annoyed that the guy who made it broke the law in doing so. The video is online, so if it ever comes to the attention of the Fiji Civil Aviation Authority, they could come down hard on local (fijian) UAV operators and hobbyists.

How do you know he broke the law?
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