Feds Threatened to Fine Yahoo $250K Daily for Not Complying with NSA's PRISM

Post by jqm » Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 3:57 AM UTC

comrade1 wrote: post #27

I wish there was a way to post anon here. I create a new id every now and then and post but no one sees the posting because it's new... I wish more people would be outraged by where the u.s. Is going and just leave. If you're educated, have desirable skills, you can just come to Europe. If you think you can change what's happening in the u.s. I do not agree with you. You will lose to the political class. They have 10…

Post by comrade1 » Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 3:59 AM UTC

jqm wrote: post #61

comrade1 wrote: post #27

I wish there was a way to post anon here. I create a new id every now and then and post but no one sees the posting because it's new... I wish more people would be outraged by where the u.s. Is going and just leave. If you're educated, have desirable skills, you can just come to Europe. If you think you can change what's happening in the u.s. I do not agree with you. You will lose to the political class. They have 10…

Europe's management has it's own set of problems. I might add, Europe has also been at war for most of the time it has been inhabited. Just because parts of Europe have taken a break for the last 60 years doesn't negate this.

Post by idlewords » Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 4:01 AM UTC

comrade1 wrote: post #57

rsync wrote: post #54

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Well, at least there is finally passable sushi being made in Zurich. That's a very, very new thing. All kidding aside - the euro countries are no better than the US in these areas. They have different code-names and the agencies are different, but they're all going the same direction.

You're just plain wrong. Not about the sushi. Europe doesn't have the means nor the corporate-government cooperation that the u.s. has for spying. It happens in Europe, even Switzerland, but for good, not evil. For example, Switzerland reoprting to the Red Cross the CIA rendition flights that it learned through its satellite communications monitoring program. There's decent Mexican inn Basel. A Mexican and 1/2 Mexica…

Post by randomfool » Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 4:02 AM UTC

tjohns wrote: post #39

melvinmt wrote: post #4

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"As I see it, eventually Yahoo would rack up such a bill that they couldn't afford it, and any collection of the fee by the government would force Yahoo to close its doors." Yahoo is about to get $20bn+ in cash in about 2 weeks, so they can hold out these fines for about 80,000 days.

If Yahoo continued to resist, I'm sure the government would just gradually increase the amount until they had no choice but to comply. These kinds of fines are usually issued for contempt of court. Judges don't take kindly to parties that try to ignore a court order, which would include writing off a court imposed fine as a cost of business. There's few things more terrifying than an angry judge with full power of co…

Post by comrade1 » Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 4:08 AM UTC

idlewords wrote: post #65

comrade1 wrote: post #57

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You're just plain wrong. Not about the sushi. Europe doesn't have the means nor the corporate-government cooperation that the u.s. has for spying. It happens in Europe, even Switzerland, but for good, not evil. For example, Switzerland reoprting to the Red Cross the CIA rendition flights that it learned through its satellite communications monitoring program. There's decent Mexican inn Basel. A Mexican and 1/2 Mexica…

Europe's a big place. My corner of it had a secret CIA prison. Also there's a Vietnamese restaurant here called "Hong Kong Lounge". The crimes don't end at the US border.