The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S. • Hacker News Board

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by ctdonath » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 3:49 PM UTC

calinet6 wrote: post #14

vitaminwater wrote: post #2

crazy how less dense western US is, when disregarding california...

It is truly another world, with so much wilderness. This difference changes the culture greatly as well, and how people think about land, the earth, and other people. You can find good people and good places everywhere, but the west really is better in nearly all respects.

This difference changes the culture greatly

Hence the importance of liberty as an axiom of federal governance: one group with particular cultural interests (say, deep urban) should not impose their situation-specific views on others far away with radically different cultural interests (say, rank wilderness). What some may find need to prohibit in one situation, others may find necessary to survival in another. The lack of respect of axiomatic liberty causes dangerous sociopolitical tensions.

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by sp332 » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 3:50 PM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #45

sp332 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I mean, they're still of European descent, why not call them white? I know, race is fuzzy. Edit: For the US Census, Hispanic people are of "Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."

Black Americans are also largely of European descent, so why not call everyone white?

Works for me :) Or at least move a lot more people into the "two or more races" category.

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by crescentfresh » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 3:54 PM UTC

Panning around randomly I stumbled on this curious little area: http://i.imgur.com/42VLDN4.png

I thought whoa that's cool, a dense little community of minorities.

Turns out: https://www.google.ca/maps/@39.6908437,-86.4131159,15z

Damn it.

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by wuliwong » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 3:59 PM UTC

tbeutel wrote: post #30

Anyone notice the triangle of people floating in the empty space at the southwestern corner of San Francisco near Lake Merced? That appears to be the Olympic Club golf course. Do people actually list the golf course as their home address on their census forms?

The data isn't accurate to address, it's to some area, a little larger. I forget what. But the dots are randomly distributed in that area.

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by ctdonath » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 3:59 PM UTC

To those dots can we easily add local population density, and income?

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by moggflunkies » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 4:03 PM UTC

crescentfresh wrote: post #53

Panning around randomly I stumbled on this curious little area: http://i.imgur.com/42VLDN4.png I thought whoa that's cool, a dense little community of minorities. Turns out: https://www.google.ca/maps/@39.6908437,-86.4131159,15z Damn it.

LOL

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by wuliwong » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 4:06 PM UTC

gone35 wrote: post #37

So much for 'the melting pot'... This society still has a long way to go.

Where do you want to "go" as a society? Is the goal to have the same "diverse" racial distribution in every community? I for one am ok with people living in communities that are mostly of the same race. I think these communities preserve cultures better. Something I personally would not like to see disappear. For instance, I would not like Chinatown to become 50% white, 20% black, 20% hispanic and 10% asian or something. I think that would be terrible. As long as there isn't legislation that is forcing or evening economically coercing people to live in segregated communities, I kinda like just having the chips fall where they may and people live where they feel comfortable.

I also wonder what other countries would look like if this same analysis was applied? My guess is that you'd see the same basic result. Cities more diverse, rural areas less. Within cities, you'd still find segregation.

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Post by oftenwrong » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 4:14 PM UTC

C7E0F338E42448 wrote: post #27

man I am so tired of races. divided and labeled in every possible context. what the hell is white anyway. a mixture of millions of unknown origins, only you happen to come out with a pale skin.

It is the "floating signifier" after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRk9MZvOd2c (NSFW)

Re: The Racial Dot Map: One Dot Per Person for the Entire U.S.

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Post by tunap » Thu, Sep 11, 2014, 4:17 PM UTC

kefka wrote: post #50

sp332 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I mean, they're still of European descent, why not call them white? I know, race is fuzzy. Edit: For the US Census, Hispanic people are of "Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."

That may be partially true. But this topic gets very murky, very quick. Spanish are just as white was the rest of the Europeans. It was back about 450 years, when the Spaniards came over to the Americas and made what is called the Hacienda. Just like when the USA had their racial times regarding Africans, the Spanish did so to the natives here. What happened was a mixing between white Spanish and Incans, Aztecs, and…