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Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Post by r00fus »

sergiotapia wrote: post #86
at-fates-hands wrote: post #81

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You can read all the sordid details here: http://www.businessinsider.com/reggie-brown-sues-snapchat-in...

"At this point, Brown and the Individual Defendants…entered into an explicit oral agreement as to their respective interests in their joint undertaking to develop the Application…That explicit agreement was that their interests in the venture would be equally distributed, i.e. each of them would have 1/3 ownership and profit interests in the joint venture/partnership." Yeah, verbal agreements aren't worth squat. At b…

Agreed - It seems like verbal agreements are just invitations to future abuse. Humans are very good at ignoring limitations when convenient. Codifying them is the only way we keep things fair.

Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Post by cylinder »

mbesto wrote: post #64
downandout wrote: post #2

As a co-founder who got screwed on a large acquisition, it makes me happy to see that Snapchat finally settled. However, a settlement doesn't change the fact that Evan Spiegel really went out of his way to intentionally screw the guy that actually invented Snapchat's model - and seemed to enjoy doing it. He's definitely not someone I'd ever do business with. http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-lawsuit-video-depos…

A few friends of mine saw Evan speak at Stanford this past spring. He was in a room with Eric Schmidt and Sam Altman (IIRC) and his attitude towards them was nothing short of smug. I don't remember the specifics of what he said but my friends said he basically "told Eric, Sam and other prominent VCs on the panel off because he thought he was more successful than them". Take that for what it's worth.

I've heard nothing but bad things about him from people who have "experienced" him person. It's a shame but douchey, sociopathic behavior is often rewarded in our system.

Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Post by gohrt »

discardorama wrote: post #98
srj wrote: post #90

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Presumably you have your PhD now? Why not sue today?

I thought about it after I graduated. The problem is: in the initial years, people ask for recommendations from your advisor; and as a PhD, you are basically tied to your advisor for life (people will always ask: who was your advisor?). After some thought, I decided to give it a rest and move on. I had learnt a valuable (and very pricey) lesson: always take things in writing.

That's deeply not true. Your advisor's impression of you does not affect later jobs.

Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Post by api »

autism_hurts wrote: post #78

Is there any interest in "this is how I got fucked" at a startup type article, or is it so common that it doesn't matter? I have an experience...

We all do. I've got several -- one involving me and two more involving others -- that are so weird I'd have to tone them down quite a bit to make them believable.

Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

#106

Post by ejain »

sergiotapia wrote: post #56
jonifico wrote: post #47

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Projects like that are usually made between friends and aren't really expected to become THAT big. Plus, it doesn't really matter, they took the guy out of the business and took away his rightful part of it. Good thing they settled.

So you're the three of em just had a verbal arrangement and not a signed contract detailing company divisions?

They did, but shared the document via Snapchat.

Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Post by [deleted] »

jsmthrowaway wrote: post #92
mbesto wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few friends of mine saw Evan speak at Stanford this past spring. He was in a room with Eric Schmidt and Sam Altman (IIRC) and his attitude towards them was nothing short of smug. I don't remember the specifics of what he said but my friends said he basically "told Eric, Sam and other prominent VCs on the panel off because he thought he was more successful than them". Take that for what it's worth.

Anecdotes wherein the spokesman wasn't even present intrigue me, particularly when it's gossip about notable figures. I'm not sure what value you expect us to find in a retelling of your friend's subjective experience. Hell, for all we know, you could be making the entire story up. One time I saw Sergey Brin be mean to someone. Take that for what it's worth. Maybe he's EVIL. Don't read my comment as defending anyone.…

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Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

#108

Post by alelefant »

cookiecaper wrote: post #97
alelefant wrote: post #93

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You don't need expertise in a particular profession to come to the conclusion that someone is being smug, rude, etc. If I saw someone on the street being disrespectful, is it unfair for me to come to that conclusion because I don't fully understand their field of work?

I didn't say anything about the field of work, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. We don't have the context of the conversation or panel in which the supposedly dismissive and/or smug comments occurred and we don't have enough information to make our own conclusion on the behavior or the reliability of the assessment given here. There are many reasons someone may feel that a speaker is smug. Some may be warrante…

> with no skin in the game

I took that as referring to field expertise. If that wasn't the intent, my mistake.

I get what you're saying, but there isn't video documentation of everything, so at some point you take the words and recollections of others.

Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Post by wdr1 »

mbesto wrote: post #64
downandout wrote: post #2

As a co-founder who got screwed on a large acquisition, it makes me happy to see that Snapchat finally settled. However, a settlement doesn't change the fact that Evan Spiegel really went out of his way to intentionally screw the guy that actually invented Snapchat's model - and seemed to enjoy doing it. He's definitely not someone I'd ever do business with. http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-lawsuit-video-depos…

A few friends of mine saw Evan speak at Stanford this past spring. He was in a room with Eric Schmidt and Sam Altman (IIRC) and his attitude towards them was nothing short of smug. I don't remember the specifics of what he said but my friends said he basically "told Eric, Sam and other prominent VCs on the panel off because he thought he was more successful than them". Take that for what it's worth.

Not to defend the guys at Snapchat, but can we stay away from second-hand rumor & innuendo?

Re: Apple event overshadows unflattering news at Snapchat, Tinder

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Post by compare »

jacquesm wrote: post #59
xtrumanx wrote: post #57

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tptacek Only because I disagree with his views on everything (besides crypto). Just kidding. If it weren't for the tptaceks of internet, I'd have no reason to ever leave a comment.

If he was banned because some newbie (or anybody else) demanded it I'd happily join him in exile. Though I very highly doubt that would ever happen. And I'm at odds with Thomas on plenty of subjects, that doesn't mean there should be demands to squelch those that we disagree with. I would not even want to see people banned for asking other people to be banned. It's just totally against the grain of the community. I r…

You really need to stop the personal attacks and trying to raise a downvote brigade against my comments, just because we disagreed about a law and culture topic.

I wish the site admins would place a clear written policy against these and other personal attacks next to every comment box.

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