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Re: Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang

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The certificate is free, but does require you to register an account at Apple.

Furthermore, you don't technically need the certificate. The deafest are protective but the system will happily launch unsigned apps if you right click them.

True, but that's a much higher barrier than "This application is from an unidentified developer. [OK]".

Re: Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang

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I don't get it. Mojang already made "all the money" from selling minecraft and are largely maintaining it now. I haven't heard if they even have any new games on the way? The space one was cancelled. What exactly is MS possibly getting that could be worth $2B?

They can make is windows-only, make a WindowsPhone port, etc. Try to lure even more people into their platform, and let the other die (which is pretty microsofty).

Absolutely not. Microsoft ports OneNote to OS X, iOS and Android. Same for Office that is available on OS X. On the other hand, Google, for instance does everything it can to make smallish platforms like Windows Phone die.

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I bet Bill Gates has a hard time finding enough qualified people to wisely manage the money he is giving away. For example, if he has someone in charge of spending money on medical research, don't you think there is a point (a few billion) where they just don't know what else to spend money on? I mean, there are only so many medical researchers in the whole world. Of course you can always just throw money away/at peo…

> Of course you can always just throw money away/at people, but it won't do any good. "Give a man a fish" vs. "teach a man to fish." Yes, throwing fish at the poorest is the right thing to do. Malnourished children grow with diminished intellectual capacity. Then it is too late to teach them to fish.

Even in the modern world, starvation and low nutrition among schoolchildren is a major problem. https://www.ted.com/talks/ann_cooper_talks_school_lunches

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I hope they resurrect 0x10c

Have you been introduced to Space Engineers? ;)

Looks interesting!

It looks like they want the ships to be programmable in C#, and I'm wondering if that's going to work out for them. It doesn't seem like the right kind of language to embed within a game.

I'm not saying they have to go all bare metal like Notch was going to do with computers in 0x10c -- though I was kind of looking forward to bootstrapping a Forth environment on my spaceship -- but I would have expected a language designed for embedding such as Lua.

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As a former minecraft player, I am salivating at this. Believe it or not, Notch did a great job creating the game and doing a few updates, and then became totally incompetent (or maybe just disinterested) after that. Development has been at a standstill for years, despite many bugs and vast potential for improvement. I would love to see somebody do something great with this game and Mojang does not seem to have "the…

What do you mean development has been at a standstill for years? They release new versions with bug fixes and features pretty often. Reading /r/minecraftsuggestions shows that most people ideas of vast improvement are sub-optimal.

Might be more accurate to say that it was at a standstill for years.

Yes, they release bug fixes and minor features often now... but the game is almost identical to what it was years ago.

The only really big thing I know they've done lately is make the game properly multi-threaded, and while that is a big and worthy accomplishment, that should have come years ago.

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It is important to remember that PV calculations are pretty easy to do, and help bring the FU money back to reality. For instance if Minecraft sells 10,000 copies a day (as someone else said) that is $100m a year. Assuming other platforms add up to the same that is $200m a year. At an 8% interest rate that is worth $2.5 billion assuming it continues forever. It is worth $1.3 billion if it only happens for 10 years.

Hey, I said that with the 10,000 (PC) copies. (With the 10,000 number that hasn’t changed for years I mostly wanted to make clear that, while not exactly growing, Mojang doesn’t seem to shrink, either.) But Mojang’s revenue and profit are public: http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/20/5531046/minecraft-mojang-pr... $322M revenue, $128M profit. However, I’m not sure whether that profit number is the correct one to assess th…

Let's say their employees are paid $100k each per year (average). And let's say they cost $50k work workplace/perks/... each.

Then let's say they lose 10%-15% of revenue in licencing cost (apple, ms, google, xbox, and let's say some facebook/twitter campaigns and software).

So then you'd have $322m * 0.85 - 40 * $150k - 128m (notch's pay) = 139m profit.

That looks reasonably close on the money. So you'd expect net income to be about $265 million.

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41 year old you might regret 31 year old you taking you out of the game. A lot of the type-A people who dominate the coding and business worlds might not be happy with just one big paycheck while they watch their peers continue on. I can't imagine Bill Gates selling MS in '86. He wanted to build an empire.

My familiarity with notch is only superficial: we met in person 3 times, once before MC got big, once when it was starting to get big, and once after it was already big. Before that we used to hang out in the same game dev irc/forum circles and chatted on occasion there. I won't pretend that makes me really know him as a person but I can say I've never got the impression he cares much about empire and/or massive ego…

I think Notch just want to have fun, and build fun stuff.

I don't think he wants to build an empire, but he wants the freedom to do his own thing, with people that he cares about (the mojangstas).

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They can make is windows-only, make a WindowsPhone port, etc. Try to lure even more people into their platform, and let the other die (which is pretty microsofty).

Absolutely not. Microsoft ports OneNote to OS X, iOS and Android. Same for Office that is available on OS X. On the other hand, Google, for instance does everything it can to make smallish platforms like Windows Phone die.

I can quite clearly tell you omited Linux from that list, for example. Also OneNote is one of those things where MS benefits from cross-platformism. Games are not.
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