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Walter Benjamin, Theodor Adorno, and the critique of pop culture

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Re: Walter Benjamin, Theodor Adorno, and the critique of pop culture

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> Technology conspires with populism to create an ideologically vacant dictatorship of likes. Hah! Imagine telling a developer at Twitter that they were conspiring to create a vacant vacuous idiot society! Imagine meeting someone at a bar and when they said they worked at Facebook letting them know that they were making the world a worse place!

I'm sure that happens 10 times a day.

Re: Walter Benjamin, Theodor Adorno, and the critique of pop culture

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>Their minatory titles, filled with dark talk of “Negative Dialectics” and “One-Dimensional Man,” were once proudly displayed on college-dorm shelves, as markers of seriousness; now they are probably consigned to taped-up boxes in garages, if they have not been discarded altogether.

Yeah, culture is not what it used to be, and even highly educated people read less and read less substancial works when they do read.

Nothing to do with the inherent quality of Benhjamin or Adorno's work.

Re: Walter Benjamin, Theodor Adorno, and the critique of pop culture

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post #10

> Technology conspires with populism to create an ideologically vacant dictatorship of likes. Hah! Imagine telling a developer at Twitter that they were conspiring to create a vacant vacuous idiot society! Imagine meeting someone at a bar and when they said they worked at Facebook letting them know that they were making the world a worse place!

They don't have to "conspire", they can just do it blindly.

Re: Walter Benjamin, Theodor Adorno, and the critique of pop culture

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post #5

There are lots of interesting and insightful critics of capitalism from a left point of view that don't rely on postmodern garbage. Read Russell, Orwell, Chomsky, Said, hell, anything but postmodern theorists.

Nothing post-modern about Adorno or Benjamin. In fact the latter commited suicide (to not be caught by the nazis), 20+ years before the postmodern genre even came into prominense.

Re: Walter Benjamin, Theodor Adorno, and the critique of pop culture

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adorno, Horkheimer, Benjamin, Marcuse, Habermas etc. are definitely not "postmodern." (Said, on the other hand, often is considered po-mo.) Even if they were, you shouldn't simply dismiss them as "garbage."

What I find interesting is just how prescient a lot of the postmodern theorists were... Roland Barthes' death of the author? Seems spot on to me! Twitter and Facebook have ended the hegemony of the narrative and replaced it with a billion people all shouting at once. We end up with emergent and algorithmic storytelling that is truly not created by any single author. Jean Baudrillard's Hyper reality? Memes are a great…

That is absolutely correct.

A lot of non-European people complain that they are indiciferable or garbage just because they are not accustomed to their language and cultural references, which is not totally unlike Blub programmer complaining about the difficult LISP or Haskell concepts.

That and the anglo-saxon mentality on philosophy is radically different (not necessarily better, as its proponents claim).

(As for stuff like the Sokal affair, nobody batted an eye or called CS, physics, biology etc "bullshit" when when tons of Markov-chain generated "papers" were published in hard science peer-reviewed journals -- here's one such incident for reference: http://www.nature.com/news/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120... ).

Re: Walter Benjamin, Theodor Adorno, and the critique of pop culture

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post #2

"Culture appears more monolithic than ever, with a few gigantic corporations—Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon—presiding over unprecedented monopolies." As opposed to when? When William Randolph Hearst ruled the press? Dickensian England? Even Big Media of my 90s youth. Culture is always monolithic because it is shared behaviour. Go back to the salons of Europe or Ancient Greece and you would have this exact same argum…

Maybe you're right about Apple, Nike, other gigantic corporations that sell products and set trends for the market. Google And Facebook are different beasts. They shape culture in a way and with means that really were not possible before. The first does it by managing his role as the funneled entrance to the more vast base of freely accessible knowledge humanity has ever created; the second one achieves it by leveraging the once invisible web of relationships that tie us all together.
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