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From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by tokenizerrr »

justizin wrote: post #14
DSMan195276 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ehh, remember lots of websites blacked themselves out completely for SOPA and PIPA a few years ago, I think that's evidence enough that they'd be willing to go all out in various circumstances. Honestly, I almost wonder if literally slowing down their service would just be a bit to hard for them to setup in the limited time-frame. I don't really know for sure though, I'm just making a guess.

It would be a pain in the ass, some sites might pull it off, most wouldn't. There's no network configuration-based solution as simple, straightforward, and noninvasive as a JS overlay.

What do you mean? Most major web servers can be easily configured to throttle connections.

https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_ratelimit.html

http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html#limi...

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by tedunangst »

oceanstone wrote: post #15

> We’ve already made a huge impact. The Sunlight Foundation recently analyzed over 800,000 comments submitted to the FCC about net neutrality– and found that more than 99% of them supported stronger protections for neutrality. 99% of the comments support net neutrality? AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast must be freaking out.

I'm really curious what percentage of comments were just "fuck comcast" and the like, but the analysis doesn't make any mention of that. They do mention one copy of war and peace was submitted, but otherwise don't say much about "not entirely constructive" comments.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by dragonwriter »

alistairSH wrote: post #18
oceanstone wrote: post #15

> We’ve already made a huge impact. The Sunlight Foundation recently analyzed over 800,000 comments submitted to the FCC about net neutrality– and found that more than 99% of them supported stronger protections for neutrality. 99% of the comments support net neutrality? AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast must be freaking out.

They would freak out if the public comments actually mattered. Unless you know otherwise, I'm guessing the FCC doesn't much care what the riff-raff think is a good idea. They're more interested in maintaining relationships with big business and keeping that revolving door spinning.

> I'm guessing the FCC doesn't much care what the riff-raff think is a good idea. They're more interested in maintaining relationships with big business and keeping that revolving door spinning.

Right, they were sued by big businesses (and lost) over their attempts at ad hoc enforcement of net neutrality principles, so they doubled down on them and issued the Open Internet Report and Order, were sued over that by big business (and lost), and tweaked it slightly [1] to issue a new version of the Order over which big businesses are pretty much certain to sue again (but, the FCC hopes, with less luck than the last two times.)

They may not be using the regulatory strategy that some consumer advocates want, but the 3-member majority of the FCC that keeps adopting open internet related rules isn't acting like they care much about maintaining their relations with big business (at least, unless you mean the big pro-neutrality businesses on the content side.)

(The 2-member minority that has been in opposition to those rules might be maintaining relations with the big telcos, but while they are participating in discussions, they aren't actually the ones setting policy.)

[1] And I'm not trying to disparage those who think that the tweaks open a dangerous weakness, but the basic structure and rules are essentially the same, and in some places stronger than the initial order.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by aaron987 »

mystik wrote: post #29

I hope many other big companies will join them. Google, Cloudflare, Rackspace, Digitalocean, Linode, and many others, I'm looking at you

I like Rackspace, but I wonder if and how their position on net neutrality might change if CenturyLink is serious about buying them.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by oceanstone »

tedunangst wrote: post #33
oceanstone wrote: post #15

> We’ve already made a huge impact. The Sunlight Foundation recently analyzed over 800,000 comments submitted to the FCC about net neutrality– and found that more than 99% of them supported stronger protections for neutrality. 99% of the comments support net neutrality? AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast must be freaking out.

I'm really curious what percentage of comments were just "fuck comcast" and the like, but the analysis doesn't make any mention of that. They do mention one copy of war and peace was submitted, but otherwise don't say much about "not entirely constructive" comments.

You might be interested in this analysis http://minimaxir.com/2014/08/comments-about-comments/

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by frostmatthew »

mystik wrote: post #29

I hope many other big companies will join them. Google, Cloudflare, Rackspace, Digitalocean, Linode, and many others, I'm looking at you

CloudFlare is joining them...they're making it easy for sites [that use CloudFlare] to participate http://blog.cloudflare.com/participate-in-the-internet-slowd...

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by sp332 »

diminoten wrote: post #25
sp332 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say anything about college. I try to avoid lectures outside of school as well.

And yet here you are...

I don't know what this comment means? I got through college, got a job, got married, and all while minimizing my exposure lectures.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Post by thezilch »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #31
justizin wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be a pain in the ass, some sites might pull it off, most wouldn't. There's no network configuration-based solution as simple, straightforward, and noninvasive as a JS overlay.

What do you mean? Most major web servers can be easily configured to throttle connections. https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_ratelimit.html http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html#limi...

And then you're having to hold Nx more connections open, which is not free.
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