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Re: iPhone 6

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Post by corysama »

sosborn wrote: post #202
basisword wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "I would imagine many people are the same way." Most people are out of space. The number of people I heard complaining when iOS 7 was released and they didn't have enough space to install it shocked me. I also know a tonne of people (especially younger people) who can't backup to iCloud because they have filled their device with photos and they would have to pay for more backup space. When most new games are over…

Let's be honest here, nobody knows one way or the other. I have friends who are out of space and friends who have plenty. Which one is the truth?

> Which one is the truth?

Different people have different needs?

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by kalleboo »

davidiach wrote: post #71
downandout wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I will buy a 6 for development purposes, I too was disappointed to find out that RAM is staying at 1GB. It's nearly 2015. More RAM does affect battery life, but still...they could have struck a balance here with 2GB.

For what do you need the additional 1GB of RAM on your iPhone?

So I can keep 2 websites in RAM at the same time instead of it reloading when I switch between them.

Apple fixing Safari's bad behavior and letting it sleep its state to flash would work too, but 6 iOS versions later it looks like they're incapable of that.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by pivo »

rlu wrote: post #171

I like the look of my iPhone 5s much better. This iPhone 6 thing looks like a Galaxy. The throwback to iPhone 1 is interesting but count me out. Not liking the design at all The protruding camera is also really weird. I wonder if Jobs would have signed off on that... Who knows though. Maybe once I hold one personally I'll end up liking it more than the 5s. But I would be surprised :)

Most people put Apple phones in cases anyway, so does it really even matter much how the bare phone looks? It doesn't to me. The protruding camera lens housing will probably be flush with a case.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by kalleboo »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #85
ascendantlogic wrote: post #4

Only one gig of RAM and base storage still at 16 gigs really annoys me. I may end up with a Moto X and wait for the 6s.

>> Only one gig of RAM Why does this matter? Apps run great as is. If the phone was slow I could understand but it isn't. >> base storage still at 16 gigs really annoys me. They pay a little extra for the larger models... It would have been nice to have a 32gb base model and it's a little strange they didn't do it but it's not like they don't offer larger storage versions.

> Why does this matter? Apps run great as is.

Safari doesn't play well at all with multitasking. I have to cross my fingers whenever I want to copy something into a form from another app because chances are the page will reload when I come back to Safari since it ran out of RAM. I also often get into the situation where I can't even tab between just 2 pages since Safari runs out of RAM and reloads each page.

Apple fixing Safari's bad behavior and letting it sleep its state to flash would work too, but 6 iOS versions later it looks like they're incapable of that.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by blueking »

Mandatum wrote: post #219
blueking wrote: post #133

Wouldn't buy the iwatch or the new iphone, and I have been a Apple longterm user. Like the motorola 360 better, round design is a huge win and again Apple are last to market with a inferior product. The iphone's main feature for me was that it was more secure than android phones. But after the celebrity icloud hacks and the iphone backdoors that were revealed (then denied by Apple) I have had enough - Apple products…

Apple planned obsolescence is a myth. Yes it might be true that the new iOS updates will require more resources, and thus the older models perform less well - but that's akin to running Windows 7 on a PC that was released formerly running XP, with all of the "Aero" features enabled. I agree Apple does some crappy things; but every large company, government and organisation does. Does that make it right? No. Is there…

No - lets decide if we want to give this company more of our money before comparing features. They are absolutely using planned obsolescence and the non exchangeable batteries across their product lines and removal of dimm sockets are a clear signal. You don't own the product, or control the data you put on it. You appear to purchase but in reality - you effectively rent. Apple designs are pretty, but not made to last. And while they like to hand you the 'license' of security, the backdoors and icloud breaches and PRISM participation show that is not backed by any real substance. Jokes on the user.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by asifjamil »

wlesieutre wrote: post #220
eisa01 wrote: post #78

Too bad there is no longer a high end 4" model. The iPhone 5S won't support Apple Pay since it doesn't have NFC, and it is no longer available in 64 GB. I would have thought that Apple understood they have customers that actually prefer the 4" size, or else they wouldn't have had any sales the last years. Let's hope for a iPhone 6S mini next year.

They don't have to worry about losing any customers to Android though, because nobody makes a 4" phone anymore. Unless you're looking for some Chinese generic with a 320x240 screen and no reviews. I don't get this trend. I just want a phone that does calls/texts, maps, alarms, music, and occasionally browses the web. Why does it need to be enormous?

I would venture the trend is because there are consumers (maybe a significant percentage) who, when comparing different options, simply make a choice based on "bigger is better".

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by baddox »

cseelus wrote: post #188

No current gen iPhone that fits in my pocket and that I can comfortably use with one hand? Anyone remember this Apple ad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk

Nope. It looks like I'll be at an impasse when I next want to upgrade my phone. It seems like no one is making high end <= 4" phones any more.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by baddox »

asifjamil wrote: post #236
wlesieutre wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't have to worry about losing any customers to Android though, because nobody makes a 4" phone anymore. Unless you're looking for some Chinese generic with a 320x240 screen and no reviews. I don't get this trend. I just want a phone that does calls/texts, maps, alarms, music, and occasionally browses the web. Why does it need to be enormous?

I would venture the trend is because there are consumers (maybe a significant percentage) who, when comparing different options, simply make a choice based on "bigger is better".

Which means that their marketing, as good as it is, is no longer enough to overpower the "larger numbers are better" instinct of undecided buyers.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by dragonwriter »

zenojevski wrote: post #177
dragonwriter wrote: post #89

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Uh, then don't get it. It's not like they aren't releasing a smaller phone called the iPhone 6 as well. Plenty of people with small hands are big fans of Samsung's Galaxy Note series, so maybe not everyone else in the market hag the same ergonomic preferences you do.

There's a huge price for that, fragmentation. Not only it is implied apps should develop a specific layout just for it, but IIRC it also has a different viewport size which is not a multiple. On top of that, the 6 already reports a new viewport width in the browser, which I guess it can't be helped though.

> There's a huge price for that, fragmentation.

Android's much more fragmented and yet hasn't had any trouble making gains. As much as Apple and Apple-boosters have made of fragmentation as some great cost, actual market experience hasn't really born that out in terms of selling handsets.

It does make things more difficult for developers, sure.

Re: iPhone 6

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Post by Mandatum »

blueking wrote: post #235
Mandatum wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple planned obsolescence is a myth. Yes it might be true that the new iOS updates will require more resources, and thus the older models perform less well - but that's akin to running Windows 7 on a PC that was released formerly running XP, with all of the "Aero" features enabled. I agree Apple does some crappy things; but every large company, government and organisation does. Does that make it right? No. Is there…

No - lets decide if we want to give this company more of our money before comparing features. They are absolutely using planned obsolescence and the non exchangeable batteries across their product lines and removal of dimm sockets are a clear signal. You don't own the product, or control the data you put on it. You appear to purchase but in reality - you effectively rent. Apple designs are pretty, but not made to las…

That may be true - but the world is run by consumerism. There's a reason people don't always buy store or generic-brand products where the quality is the same. There's a reason people will spend $1000 on a phone comparable to a $300 one.

People buy brands and aesthetics, not function.

And people don't care about privacy or security, not yet anyway. I'm a hobbyist pen-tester, I've reported breaches which would allow full identity theft - and what happens? Nothing.

I swear I'm getting more and more pessimistic by the day, time to go camp in the woods.

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