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From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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You could listen to the lecture

Lectures aren't for listening. They're for reinforcing the superiority of the lecturer over the lectured.

I guess you ware way smarter than your lecturers.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Lectures aren't for listening. They're for reinforcing the superiority of the lecturer over the lectured.

I guess you ware way smarter than your lecturers.

I learned a ton from my professors. But lecturing is, objectively, an ineffective way to teach. http://news.sciencemag.org/education/2014/05/lectures-arent-...

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Websites are only putting banners up with a loading spinner to help illustrate the issue[0], not throttling their upload speeds. Wouldn't it be better to actually slow down their content? I suppose that hurts the bottom-line so it can't even be considered. =/ [0] A quote from a TechHive.com article on the subject: " Note: The slowdown will only be simulated, not actual—the spinning “loading” icons you’ll see on those…

Ehh, remember lots of websites blacked themselves out completely for SOPA and PIPA a few years ago, I think that's evidence enough that they'd be willing to go all out in various circumstances. Honestly, I almost wonder if literally slowing down their service would just be a bit to hard for them to setup in the limited time-frame. I don't really know for sure though, I'm just making a guess.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Websites are only putting banners up with a loading spinner to help illustrate the issue[0], not throttling their upload speeds. Wouldn't it be better to actually slow down their content? I suppose that hurts the bottom-line so it can't even be considered. =/ [0] A quote from a TechHive.com article on the subject: " Note: The slowdown will only be simulated, not actual—the spinning “loading” icons you’ll see on those…

Ehh, remember lots of websites blacked themselves out completely for SOPA and PIPA a few years ago, I think that's evidence enough that they'd be willing to go all out in various circumstances. Honestly, I almost wonder if literally slowing down their service would just be a bit to hard for them to setup in the limited time-frame. I don't really know for sure though, I'm just making a guess.

It would be a pain in the ass, some sites might pull it off, most wouldn't. There's no network configuration-based solution as simple, straightforward, and noninvasive as a JS overlay.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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> We’ve already made a huge impact. The Sunlight Foundation recently analyzed over 800,000 comments submitted to the FCC about net neutrality– and found that more than 99% of them supported stronger protections for neutrality.

99% of the comments support net neutrality? AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast must be freaking out.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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I am not a fan of this especially since it is happening during the workweek and I wont have anything to do while sitting in lectures(I'm not talking about pornhub here ;) ).

I don't think you're supposed to like it. It's supposed to show you how bad it would get without net neutrality

Unfortunately absolutely nobody agrees what net neutrality means.

EDIT: I can be more specific. People have been constantly talking about Netflix and Verizon in the past year with regard to Net Neutrality, but in fact Netflix was being asked to behave as a big player and to help pay for the costs of running the network. Whether they should be paying for peering is out of scope for net neutrality, it's completely distracting. On a fully neutral net, the traffic from Netflix could kill your visits to HackerNews and PornHub, based on sheer volume. Network operators, though I agree they should have been expanding capacity, took action to ensure the network continued working for everyone.

If we had municipal internet _and_ neutrality, you would have a situation where the burden to expand network capacity is on taxpayers, and whoever shoves the most packets into the core network can dominate everyone.

The Internet would stop working immediately.

I'm certainly not arguing _against_ regulation, I'm arguing against the naivete` of 100% neutrality. There is no greater friend to a small upstart in a garage than network prioritization, but because you rarely have a network service which is _intended_ to be a service provider in your garage, arguments related to this don't much hold water.

It's frustrating for me because I largely agree with the intent and am on the same side as people pushing neutrality, but it's a term which has come to mean nothing and is largely talked about and criticized by people who do not know how to run a computer network. :/

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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You could listen to the lecture

Lectures aren't for listening. They're for reinforcing the superiority of the lecturer over the lectured.

No one's forcing you to go to college, y'know.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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> We’ve already made a huge impact. The Sunlight Foundation recently analyzed over 800,000 comments submitted to the FCC about net neutrality– and found that more than 99% of them supported stronger protections for neutrality. 99% of the comments support net neutrality? AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast must be freaking out.

They would freak out if the public comments actually mattered. Unless you know otherwise, I'm guessing the FCC doesn't much care what the riff-raff think is a good idea. They're more interested in maintaining relationships with big business and keeping that revolving door spinning.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Websites are only putting banners up with a loading spinner to help illustrate the issue[0], not throttling their upload speeds. Wouldn't it be better to actually slow down their content? I suppose that hurts the bottom-line so it can't even be considered. =/ [0] A quote from a TechHive.com article on the subject: " Note: The slowdown will only be simulated, not actual—the spinning “loading” icons you’ll see on those…

The reason I'm against actually slowing down is because they probably won't bother to geo-target it. Net neutrality isn't a problem where I live, there's nothing I can do to help people in the US, so I don't want my day disrupted. A spinner I'm ok with.

Re: From Reddit to Pornhub, Websites Slow Down for Net Neutrality on September 10

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Websites are only putting banners up with a loading spinner to help illustrate the issue[0], not throttling their upload speeds. Wouldn't it be better to actually slow down their content? I suppose that hurts the bottom-line so it can't even be considered. =/ [0] A quote from a TechHive.com article on the subject: " Note: The slowdown will only be simulated, not actual—the spinning “loading” icons you’ll see on those…

The reason I'm against actually slowing down is because they probably won't bother to geo-target it. Net neutrality isn't a problem where I live, there's nothing I can do to help people in the US, so I don't want my day disrupted. A spinner I'm ok with.

Please elaborate. Net neutrality affects the whole web no?
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