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Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Can't Google just setup dormitories? It's halfway on being it's own city, so why not go all out and have cheap living quarters?

No; though they desperately want to, Mountain View strictly regulates how much housing can be built, and where. Why? Because only the people who already live there get to vote for local representatives, so everything's biased toward what's best for established homeowners -- not struggling would-be homeowners.

This. The root conflict of interest in the whole bay area housing issue. Existing residents vote on propositions to block new construction that were approved 20 years ago. New residents prop up the region's economic vitality with new industries benefiting existing residents and existing residents further restrict housing supply, further increasing their own home values while preventing new residents from coming in.

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maybe change the link to the quora thread? The article adds literally nothing. http://www.quora.com/Which-Googler-holds-the-record-for-livi...

Put ?share=1 on the end of the link to get past the nag-wall: http://www.quora.com/Which-Googler-holds-the-record-for-livi...

There are browser extensions to automatically add it:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/quora-share/?...

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quora-unblocker/pc...

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Most people go through much longer periods of celibacy than that on a regular basis when outside of long term relationships. For most people, the singles life is relatively sex-less. Presumably living on campus isn't a choice that most people make in the first place when they are in long term relationships and/or have regular options of companionship.

Just curious, what is "longer periods"? Is celibacy for a year really a plausible outcome for most people in SF? And is it so likely that it makes living in a car worthwhile? I'm honestly curious. Year-long celibacy is not super uncommon in India, but Indian culture is explicitly set up to make sure women don't have sex until their parents get them married off. I'm really shocked to hear that SF is that bad.

Why are you surprised to hear this? You're hardly the first person I'd expect to not realize the social stigma most men in the tech industry face trying to date; combine that with the supply/demand in the Bay and you should expect that most men will struggle to date at all (really, anywhere on the west coast except maybe LA.)

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I'm curious why the weather argument comes up so often. Aren't we, as "software people", under a roof and in front of a screen most of the time anyways? Then again, I'm "deep inside" Europe, so I have no idea how bad the weather over there really is.

The weather in the Bay Area is essentially perfect. The scenery is beautiful, and you can see the ocean, the desert, magnificent forests and the mountains all in the same day. It doesn't get too hot, it doesn't get too cold, it rains only for a few months out of the year, and it never gets very humid. Living in the Bay Area makes you spoiled and lazy because it is too comfortable. As the piece [1] by Mary Schmich (an…

For your definition of perfect, at least. I love rain and humidity. I miss the 60+ inches a year in South Florida.

Plus, your ocean is too damn cold. :P

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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I've been living in the Bay Area since the dotcom days and they've been asking the same question since I've been around. Until people in tech stop making money, I doubt SV will collapse, but it will go through boom and bust cycles. But the booms tend to be huge and the busts tend to be not as bad. I had the opportunity to get a job in Seattle at Amazon about 10 years ago. I would have taken a paycut, but with the 0%…

I'm curious why the weather argument comes up so often. Aren't we, as "software people", under a roof and in front of a screen most of the time anyways? Then again, I'm "deep inside" Europe, so I have no idea how bad the weather over there really is.

> Aren't we, as "software people", under a roof and in front of a screen most of the time anyways?

I would hope not, if we want to stay healthy.

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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As someone who lives and works in the bay area, you cannot buy a house with a software engineer's salary, not unless it is a very poor neighborhood, in which case you're contributing to gentrification, or you want to drive 2 hours from Pleasanton. I say that as a software engineer home owner who bought a house before the prices sky rocketed again in 2011. I wouldn't be able to afford my own house right now.

"in which case you're contributing to gentrification" I guess keeping poor neighborhoods poor is a good think now?

Yeah, I also don't understand how buying a house within one's own means is gentrification. Is the definition of "afford" different between your "very poor" neighbors and you, the "software engineer"?

Re: Google Employees Secretly Live on Campus to Avoid Paying Rent

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Reminds me of a book I read sometime back, where Employees lived on campuses, ate bio designed meat, produced bio engineered pets, products that enhanced artificial sense of well being while a biological catastrophe engulfed the outside world (mostly because of bio engineered products that these companies produced). I can't see to recall the name of the book though. Soon enough we will be getting there though.

Sounds like the plot of Oryx and Crake (I did not like the book, but it was an interesting plot): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46756.Oryx_and_Crake

Read that one for a sci-fi class in college. I think the teacher had intended to discuss it as describing technology run amok; I took it as capitalism run amok.

I'd be curious to know which one Atwood actually meant.

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I was doing it in Leyton/Woodford in East London so borderline city/suburbs. I'd do it again, 100% of the time but the three children, wife, mortgage and inevitable responsibilities that come with these things make it difficult if not impossible to achieve. Narrow boats and widebeams are horrid. I lived in a narrow boat for a month. They rock very slightly, smell awful, are damp as anything (even the nice ones), cost…

Dammit you ruined the canal boat dream! Must admit, renting one for a month or two would probably be worth considering before buying one. I hear it's all about finding a mooring space.

Yeah I would rent one for a bit first, preferably long enough to try and get water out of a diesel tank and empty the sewage tanks!

You might enjoy it, but I certainly didn't.

Also, literally everything went rusty. Even stainless steel and my windows mobile 5 phone at the time went rusty.

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