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Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gruber has a spot on wrap-up: http://daringfireball.net/2014/09/prelude

How can it be a wrap-up, or judged to be spot-on in advance of any actual confirmed facts? I'll admit he's probably mostly prescient, but we won't know for another hour or two.

We'll see after the event.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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"Our live broadcast begins at 10 a.m. PDT." Considering that the entire world uses GMT, and that only US citizens use PDT, they could have bothered to use GMT. Or better still, they could have detected your location/system time and just put a countdown or your own local time.

Uhmm, did you not notice that HUGE countdown timer? That pretty much covers entire world.

And, no, whole world doesn't use GMT (talk to Indians and Chinese about what time they use). Also, entire US doesn't use PDT time. You know, some people live on east coast.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check the comments, someone already solved this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8290769

Well, still, for a company that tries to make everything "simple and beautiful", why don't their video streams just work everywhere out of the box? That is the question.

What Apple's live streaming does, is in a CDN friendly way dynamically adjust the bandwidth going to a stream consumer. It's a great invention and there's no reason other people haven't adopted it. It's not being proprietary, it's simply being smart, because it's not trivial to do this kind of broadcast on the internet.

Here's the reality of video, and this goes for a lot of things that Apple makes "simple and beautiful". They fundamentally aren't. Video is a fundamentally difficult mess, a PITA, and the only way to have it work really smoothly is to have enough control over the entire stack to ensure that things work they way they are supposed to... and even then it doesn't always work. People adopting MP4 as a standard has gone a long way towards making things "just work" generally, but it's not sufficient by itself for a quality live stream.

I remember trying to watch a previous live stream from south america and the difficulties I had, even though I was using Apple devices and software the whole way.

Simple and Beautiful is a contradiction from "everywhere out of the box".

Those are two opposite goals.

This is an important thing to understand about software broadly, but with video it borders on impossible.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Apple.com/ has been redirecting to apple.com/live for about ~20 hours now. They're very confident about what's about to be presented.

You know what I wonder? An alternative explanation to a very confident Apple is just that they changed their attitude about all this, thinking there is not really much of a difference between them providing a countdown or others doing it (before the last Keynote this countdown webpage got pretty huge), between them providing a liveblog or others doing it (there are always many liveblogs with often crappy photos, so w…

I don't think the big deal is them providing live coverage, it's that their homepage is redirecting to the stream 24 hours before hand. Considering how many hits apple.com gets per day that's a big decision indicating a huge event.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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I can't reproduce this in either Chrome or Firefox. All of the requests I see are to the http://www.apple.com origin. I also can't find any hard-coded https://www.apple.com URLs in the HTML+JS sources. Maybe they fixed it already, or maybe you have a browser extension that's modifying the requests on your end.

Turns out to be HTTPS Everywhere (EFF's extension) doing it. My bad.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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I'm getting older, so maybe my desires don't match up with the majority of tech people's anymore, but does anyone really want an iWatch (or whatever it ends up being called)? I am just not sold on the usefulness of such a thing.

I didn't see the point of the iPhone or the iPad before they announced them. I haven't worn a watch for 20 years... but if they do announce a watch (I expect it will be a wearable more than a watch) I bet I will buy it.

Because I don't think they'd make it if it weren't worth making. Apple has never tried to create a new category when they didn't have something substantial to offer.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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I'm getting older, so maybe my desires don't match up with the majority of tech people's anymore, but does anyone really want an iWatch (or whatever it ends up being called)? I am just not sold on the usefulness of such a thing.

People do not want a watch like the current crop of i-watches. They hope that Apple will create a watch the masses want to buy.

That's what the excitement is all about, either pro-Apple people that want to see Apple creating another iPhone/iPad/iPod market, or anti-apple that want another Apple TV to finally prove that Apple could not recover from Steve Jobs death.

Best of all, unlike monads, this is a topic everybody can have an opinion about, that's weeks worth of traffic guaranteed. Apple announcement themselves are valuable product for the media.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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"Our live broadcast begins at 10 a.m. PDT." Considering that the entire world uses GMT, and that only US citizens use PDT, they could have bothered to use GMT. Or better still, they could have detected your location/system time and just put a countdown or your own local time.

The screen is filled with a huge countdown. You can't add the countdown to your current time and get the answer? If someone is holding an event I would expect them to announce the start in local time - the people that need to know the time the most are the ones that are going to be there, why make it more difficult for them?
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